'Fantastic Four' Box Office Dive Is a Bad Omen for Marvel's Future - The MCU’s appeal beyond its most hardcore fans is in question after its second-weekend “First Steps” drop
'Fantastic Four' Box Office Dive Is a Bad Omen for Marvel's Future
The 66% drop for Fantastic Four's second weekend at the box office is a bad sign for the future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.Jeremy Fuster (TheWrap)
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They Came From Planet Happiness
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They Came From Planet Happiness
A philosophy webcomic about the inevitable anguish of living a brief life in an absurd world. Also Jokeswww.existentialcomics.com
Not crazy about the hed here. There's a strong implication that this is A) full replacement and B) everyone terminated is just going to say, "sure, I'll come back ... surely, there's no chance something like this could happen again."
The net result is fewer positions held by less experienced people. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with entry-level jobs (god knows I've had way more than I should have), but NWS is -- much like a newsroom -- on a set schedule. Education is important, but there's no substitute for experience.
‘She needs to have a democracy to grow up in’: The moms who left Texas to defend its future
Texas Democratic lawmakers who are mothers flee the state to defend its future
Democratic lawmakers fled the state to protest a Trump-backed redistricting plan. For the mothers among them, leaving meant juggling summer milestones, first days of school — and showing their kids what democracy requires.Amanda Becker (19th News)
GitHub CEO delivers stark message to developers: Embrace AI or get out.
GitHub CEO delivers stark message to developers: Embrace AI or get out
Thomas Dohmke wrote that humans are often resistant to change. He said that's okay, but these people should probably find another profession.Alistair Barr (Business Insider)
Eliminators (1986)
MANDROID. MERCENARY. SCIENTIST. NINJA. EACH ONE A SPECIALIST. TOGETHER THEY ARE ELIMINATORS!
A mad scientist uses the body of a downed pilot to build a cyborg he calls Mandroid. He then uses Mandroid as a guinea pig for his time-travel experiments, and, after they prove successful, he decides to send the cyborg to the junk yard. Mandroid is not amenable to this idea, however, and escapes. He sets out to find Nora Hunter, a robotics scientist who might be able to help him get revenge against his maker.
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Eliminators is a 1986 science fiction action film directed by Peter Manoogian, starring Andrew Prine, Denise Crosby and Patrick Reynolds. The plot centers ar...YouTube
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I love how they didn't even bother to make the prosthetic look like it's in his head, but tacked onto the outside.
Star Trek The Next Generation had better prosthetics at the time, hahaha.
Awesome.
Steam data reveals PC gamers shifting from Windows to Linux
Steam data reveals PC gamers shifting from Windows to Linux
Steam Hardware & Software Survey results for July 2025 show Linux's market share growing ahead of a potential full SteamOS release for PC.Kosta Andreadis (TweakTown)
White House Orders NASA to Destroy Important Satellite that Collects Climate Data
One is attached to the International Space Station, and the other is collecting data as a stand-alone satellite. The latter would meet its permanent demise after burning up in the atmosphere if the mission were to be terminated.A 2023 review by NASA concluded that the data they'd been providing had been "of exceptionally high quality."
The observatories provide detailed carbon dioxide measurements across various locations, allowing scientists to get a detailed glimpse of how human activity is affecting greenhouse gas emissions.
(Ex NASA employee) David Crisp said it "makes no economic sense to terminate NASA missions that are returning incredibly valuable data," pointing out it costs only $15 million per year to maintain both observatories, a tiny fraction of the agency's $25.4 billion budget.
White House Orders NASA to Destroy Important Satellite
The White House has instructed NASA employees to destroy two major, climate change-focused satellite missions.Victor Tangermann (Futurism)
Microsoft gets EU hall pass despite admitting it can't protect European data
Microsoft gets EU hall pass despite admitting it can't protect European data
Regulators declare victory over contractual band-aids while Cloud Act elephant remains in room.Luis Rijo (PPC Land)
Gates Foundation commits $2.5 billion to 'ignored' women's health
Gates Foundation commits $2.5 billion to 'ignored' women's health
The Gates Foundation will spend $2.5 billion by 2030 on women’s health, it said on Monday, with founder Bill Gates saying the area, including conditions from preeclampsia to menopause, had been neglected for too longReuters (NBC News)
Better than staging coups.
But I am still uncomfortable with a monopolist billionaire controlling so much of medical research worldwide. Gates is the reason the Oxford COVID vaccine isn't open source. Gates' encouragement of irresponsible vaccine testing in underdeveloped nations with low accountability is a major reason conspiracy theories are able to take hold. Gates has also, for decades, exerted way too much influence on the direction of medical research in general. Him addressing women's health to a small degree serves only to begin to close a gap he himself has allowed to remain for too long.
He needs to remove himself from decision-making around the foundation.
"Frankly Impressed": Bill Gates On 3-Hour Dinner With Donald Trump
Donald Trump and Bill Gates' conversation touched on various topics, including HIV, polio, and the COVID-19 pandemic.NDTV News Desk (NDTV)
PieFed 1.1 is released
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Let us know what you set up lately, what kind of problems you currently think about or are running into, what new device you added to your homelab or what interesting service or article you found.
Personally I'm finally reaping the fruits of my labour and enjoy my stable homelab without doing much. One node went down recently and the other took over until I restarted so I was not in a hurry to fix things. Enjoying family time and only running updates that aren't automated (yet). I'm about to dig a bit deeper into logging, probably setting up central log collection like Loki at some point, but not yet.
I'm running this #dockercompose setup of #Nextcloud since 2019/2020 and automatic and daily update checks without any big issue:
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Federal Prisons Are Restraining People for Weeks on End, Investigation Reveals
Federal Prisons Are Restraining People for Weeks on End, Investigation Reveals
The Bureau of Prisons has failed to adequately document the use of restraints, despite their potentially deadly use.Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg (Truthout)
Spider-Punk Animated Feature From Daniel Kaluuya & Ajon Singh In Development At Sony
Spider-Punk Animated Feature From Daniel Kaluuya & Ajon Singh In Development
A Spider-Punk animated feature from Daniel Kaluuya & Ajon Singh is in development at Sony, Deadline has learned.Matt Grobar (Deadline)
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More than 40 arrested at protest against Gaza war at Trump hotel in New York
More than 40 people protesting the war and worsening humanitarian crisis in Gaza were arrested outside the Trump International hotel in New York City on Monday evening.
The protest, organized by IfNotNow, a Jewish-American anti-occupation group, had begun earlier in the evening at Columbus Circle. Hundreds gathered under the banner “Trump: Jews Say No More” to demand an end to the war in Gaza and that the Trump administration pressure Israel to allow greater humanitarian aid to enter into the territory, as health officials there continue to report deaths from starvation and malnutrition.
“Let’s not mince words, the Israeli government’s blockade of Gaza is a policy of ethnic cleansing by way of forced mass starvation,” said Morriah Kaplan, IfNotNow’s interim executive director
More than 40 arrested at protest against Gaza war at Trump hotel in New York
Protest led by Jewish American group IfNotNow demand White House pressure Israel to let more aid into territoryAnna Betts (The Guardian)
Muscogee court affirms citizenship for descendants of people enslaved by tribe
Muscogee court affirms citizenship for descendants of people enslaved by tribe
Muscogee (Creek) Nation had earlier argued that only lineal descendants of tribe qualified for citizenshipAdria R Walker (The Guardian)
US citizens jailed in LA Ice raids speak out: ‘They came ready to attack’
Suddenly, she recalled, one of the men slammed her to the ground and placed her into his car. The men had “Police” vests, but otherwise were in plainclothes and didn’t identify themselves. She didn’t know why they had taken her.The men, it turned out, were Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) deportation officers. They were looking to question people about “whether they were lawfully present” in the US, an agent later wrote. Velez is a US citizen who grew up in downtown, not far from the incident.
”They just came out ready to attack anyone,” said Velez, in her first interview since her arrest. “I thought they were kidnapping me.”
US citizens jailed in LA Ice raids speak out: ‘They came ready to attack’
Exclusive: Andrea Velez and Adrian Martinez recount their capture by immigration officers and its effects on their livesSam Levin (The Guardian)
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Confucius: Ancient China's Most Influential Philosopher
Confucius: Ancient China's Most Influential Philosopher
Confucius is one of history's most influential figures - a sage, philosopher, and teacher - who, along with Socrates and Buddha, lived during an extraordinar...YouTube
Greg Abbott's threats to Texas Democrats are unprecedented—and baseless
In the face of efforts by Texas Republicans to enact a brutal, democratically illegitimate gerrymander, Democrats in the State House took the only action they could: they fled the state, denying a quorum, and preventing the House from conducting business. Given that the legislators face heavy fines for their actions, it’s brave—but necessary—action.Last night, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott raised the stakes by threatening the fleeing state legislators with removal from office.
But, as is the case with other petty tyrants, Abbott’s threat is heavier on punchy rhetoric than it is on the law. Even stipulating that we live in unprecedented times, a judicial decision embracing Abbott’s legal argument would be in a league of its own.
Greg Abbott's threats to Texas Democrats are unprecedented—and baseless
Last night, Abbott threatened fleeing state legislators with removal from office on entirely baseless groundsQuinn Yeargain (Guaranteed Republics)
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Even stipulating that we live in unprecedented times, a judicial decision embracing Abbott’s legal argument would be in a league of its own.
Oh, so it's definitely happening then...
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Particle Tachyon 5G single-board PC now available for $299
The Particle Tachyon is a single-board computer that’s about the same size as a Raspberry Pi 5 and it even has a Raspberry Pi-compatible 40-pin GPIO header. But Particle positions the Tachyon as a versatile little PC with the guts of “a modern smartphone.”
That’s because it’s powered by a Qualcomm QCM6490 Dragonwing processor with 8 Kryo 670 CPU cores, Adreno 643 graphics, and an NPU with up […]
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EU could earn €1 trillion by fully taxing aviation, private jets included
EU could earn €1 trillion by fully taxing aviation, private jets included
Scrapping exemptions for long-haul and private flights and taxing non-CO2 emissions could multiply EU aviationStefano Porciello (EURACTIV)
US man stabbed bakery owners over sandwich bought years ago, police say
US man stabbed bakery owners over sandwich bought years ago, police say
Suspect allegedly stabbed New Jersey brothers Abed and Mohammed Assad because they gave him eggplant not eggRichard Luscombe (The Guardian)
Proton Mail blocked due to missing Web Storage & PRNG???
Trying to load my usual Proton Mail web app and I get an error that is completely un-bypassable. Details of the error say "This version of Firefox is no longer supported due to a bug in the WebCrypto API. Please Update to a newer version".
Has anyone encountered this and found a fix? Not sure the devs are aware either. Any info is appreciated.
Some tourists and business travelers may face up to $15,000 bond to enter US
Smells like a grift to me ... now we're doing import taxes on people?
The US state department has prepared plans to impose bonds as high as $15,000 for some tourism and business visas, according to a draft of a temporary final rule.The bonds would be issued to visitors from countries with significant overstay rates, under a 12-month pilot program.
It renews an initiative issued by the first Trump administration in November 2020, the month that Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump in the presidential election. That rule would have required a $15,000 bond for tourist and business travelers from two dozen countries with 10% or higher overstay rates, mostly in Africa.
So, the return of "shithole countries."
Some tourists and business travelers may face up to $15,000 bond to enter US
US state department has plans to issue bonds for some tourism and business visas, according to a federal noticeMichael Sainato (The Guardian)
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Tom Holland Reveals "Spider-Man: Brand New Day" Costume
Tom Holland Reveals Spider-Man Brand New Day Costume
Tom Holland reveals his Spider-Man Brand New Day costume.Jordan Moreau (Variety)
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Marvel knew he would leak it so they were one step ahead this time.
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Mark Ruffalo Returning as the Hulk for "Spider-Man: Brand New Day"
Spider-Man: Brand New Day Adds Mark Ruffalo as Hulk
But wait, that's not all.Aaron Couch (The Hollywood Reporter)
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Finally, a real teaser.
I really hope this suit doesn't end up looking as shiny as it did at the end of NWH.
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Sat down and caught it tonight, not a bad show. Only complaint is that it's basically Assassin's Creed with a Wakanda skin. Or Black Panther with an Assassin's Creed skin?
No biggie, if you like either, you'll like this.
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Mongostein
in reply to Boomer Humor Doomergod • • •This is true. Sure they’re Marvel’s “First Family” but even before the MCU or any of the fox movies they were less popular than The Avengers, who were less popular than the X-men.
Also, putting the movie up against Superman, who is DC’s #1 or #2 character, was a bad call.
I thought the movie was great though.
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in reply to Boomer Humor Doomergod • • •I actually timed it at the last two movies I went to because I find that annoying too. It’s 18 minutes, including trailers (which I don’t mind) where I live.
So I planned to show up 10 minutes after show time.
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in reply to Boomer Humor Doomergod • • •Boomer Humor Doomergod
in reply to shalafi • • •It also means that I don’t know when the movie ends because the run time doesn’t matter anymore.
But it’s mostly the lying.
And the ads.
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in reply to SaneMartigan • • •Basically, yeah, but with everything.
Regurgitated rehashes of rehashes of rehashes. Ai slop has been our reality since before Ai slop. The only time I even get remotely surprised, it's usually an indie thriller or horror film.
It's no wonder Invincible is popular. It's no wonder Severance is popular. Yeah, they're good, but they're also fresh to the general public. They're innately interesting and new.
Marvel doesn't do "interesting and new". They're a nostalgia factory.
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in reply to Sanctus • • •This is, IMHO, why Superman is doing so well. It's the type of unapologetically wholesome shit I didn't know my soul was so desperate for.
EDIT: My wife just called it "hope porn" and I think it fits.
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in reply to Jo Miran • • •I've been burnt out on superhero stuff for a bit, and had zero interest in checking out Superman as the DC stuff has been of no interest to me since the Nolan Batman movies.
I put it on the other night for background noise, but it got my attention right from the start, and I really enjoyed it.
The biggest thing for me was when he saved that squirrel mid-fight. The guy has everyone trying to kill him and the city, and he loves everything about Earth so much he can't see any living thing suffer.
There is so much unspoken collateral damage in all these action movies, and Superman wouldn't even let a squirrel suffer for actions linked to him.
I want someone to look out for me, dang it. Where's our Superman?
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in reply to Chronographs • • •I just went back and watched the scene. The squirrel part is so quick compared to the other rescues like the dog in that same scene.
The dog got a lot more direct attention, and that makes sense since a lot of people have or really like dogs. But I've never seen anything where the hero stops to save an animal nobody would ever even put in a scene.
It wasn't played up like a bit like the dog, and that made it feel like a more natural thing this Superman would do. It turned a throwaway gag into a bit of character development that in 3 seconds showed us this Superman would put himself on the line to save any life.
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in reply to JusticeForPorygon • • •I do think they should have delayed Fantastic Four until at least mid August if not later. Maybe even save it for 2026.
2023 had three MCU films, 2024 had just one MCU film, 2025 was back to three, 2026 will have just two. There was plenty of space for this film, to put it right after Superman was probably a mistake.
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in reply to ZoteTheMighty • • •I fell asleep during Fantastic Four. It was boring as hell.
Didn't see Superman though so I can't compare it.
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in reply to TheImpressiveX • • •This drop-off tracks with the brand. I say this as someone who likes the F4, they just don't have a broad appeal with general audiences that other comic brands have. They're a property that only comic nerds care about and always have been.
Edit: They also had to complete with Superman. The F4 have never been able to compete with Superman.
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in reply to 1SimpleTailor • • •I'm already two movies behind and yeah, I opted for Superman as well with zero regrets.
I know I'll see Fantastic Four on Disney+ eventually, and that's Disney's main problem.
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in reply to ApollosArrow • • •Future Foundation is pretty much the definitive modern F4 story. Hickmens run as a whole is peak.
A problem with the F4 is that their golden age of stories was back in the Silver Age of Comic Books. They were a cornerstone a lot of the early world-building of the Marvel Universe. Their lasting legacy has been the characters and ideas these stories introduced to the Marvel universe: Dr Doom, Galactus, The Silver Surfer, Black Panther, The Negative Zone, ect. Marvel has long struggled to adapt the team to the modern era.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but IMO the best F4 stories are ones where they aren't so much a team of super heroes, but rather a team of scientist and explorers with super powers. They are better suited to telling sci-fi stories rather then traditional superhero stories.
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in reply to TheImpressiveX • • •Interesting article. I'd say one fact it misses the importance of is that Fantastic Four is the 37th film in the MCU in 17 years. The MCU a huge sprawling and bloated mess, and it's not surprising mainstream cinema goers have disengaged from it. That actually could hold a movie back - it's not see as a "fantastic four" reboot, it's seen as MCU installment 37 even if it tries not to be that.
Add to that, 17 years is a long time. Frankly a lot of the original audience have "grown out" of watching these movies, and younger cinema goers are not watching MCU movies so they're not replacing their audience. Plus streaming took off in that time and people who are now in their 30s and 40s are not going to the cinema anywhere near as much.
For me, none of fhis is surprising. If anything I'm impressed they stayed at the top for as long as they did. But it had to end eventually - tastes change, people grow up and move on. Super Hero movies aren't gone, but they're not automatic mega hits anymore - things are just going back to "normal". There isn't anything much wrong with the MCU
... show moreInteresting article. I'd say one fact it misses the importance of is that Fantastic Four is the 37th film in the MCU in 17 years. The MCU a huge sprawling and bloated mess, and it's not surprising mainstream cinema goers have disengaged from it. That actually could hold a movie back - it's not see as a "fantastic four" reboot, it's seen as MCU installment 37 even if it tries not to be that.
Add to that, 17 years is a long time. Frankly a lot of the original audience have "grown out" of watching these movies, and younger cinema goers are not watching MCU movies so they're not replacing their audience. Plus streaming took off in that time and people who are now in their 30s and 40s are not going to the cinema anywhere near as much.
For me, none of fhis is surprising. If anything I'm impressed they stayed at the top for as long as they did. But it had to end eventually - tastes change, people grow up and move on. Super Hero movies aren't gone, but they're not automatic mega hits anymore - things are just going back to "normal". There isn't anything much wrong with the MCU to fix, audiences just aren't as interested in what it offers now.
Marvel/Disney will keep making them just as they do with Star Wars because they're in the business of franchises, but it's beyond it's peak and that's pretty normal in entertainment. Nothing dominates forever.
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in reply to TheImpressiveX • • •Another thing not explored in this article is the 100 days to streaming rollout that we've seen.
A film comes out, ~60 days later it hits Premium VOD, ~30 days later a physical release, shortly after it hits Disney+.
A lot of people are willing to wait for a number of different reasons, economic, hype, quality, etc
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in reply to MimicJar • • •For me it’s health related reasons. Even if I wanted to, I can’t go to a cinema to watch a movie.
That’s why I don’t mind paying for premium VODs (that’s the closest I can get to real cinema) but it’s just cruel that in this COVID-era of ours films are still released cinema first with a huge delay until the digital release.
Just let me watch it at home same day it releases for everyone else, I’m willing to pay for it.
Bit off topic but I wanted to watch a YT video about James Bond and like 30 seconds in the guy launches into spoilers for the new Mission Impossible movie. Had to close that tab real fast like; shit like this could be prevented.
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in reply to AngryRobot • • •Yes. Then he yelled, “it’s sandblasting time!” The camera cut to a wall where a stream of sand was hitting it and it pooling on the floor.
Of fucking course that wasn’t said. 🤦♂️
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