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Sometimes, you really *can* vote with your wallet. I know, I'm generally pretty down on this kind of thing, but sometimes, it works!

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@itgrrl @alan
Can add I've been runnings faikin's for nearly a year now, no problems.
You can install yourself legally as daikins all have the plug for the control board (exception for one or two models) and you do not have to touch the 240v system. (There are some models where there is a 240v option, but I think all also have a control input that is not 240v)
That said there is 240v live in there so absolutely turn the mains power off before anything.
Re insurance, I'd have them in court if they tried. It sends a control signal (the Daikin system does the 240v switching) so if something burns its a fault of the Daikin components (and aside from their notorious wifi module) they are field proven and considered reliable.
Each to their own, do what works for you, but #faikin isn't scary, has been reliable and safe for me.
Pro tip if you go for faikin, check your model and cable type (varies by model)
I went through faikin.com.au and they were helpful, confirmed cable types and fast delivery (no affiliation, just happy customer)
Happy de-enshitification if you go that way!
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@curiously @alan
please don’t make the mistake of assuming that someone making a different choice to you is “scared” of (or ignorant of / inexperienced with) a given technology

it’s not “scary” (to me), but I have no interest in testing an insurer in the legal system should my house burn down and I need to be able to replace it in a reasonable timeframe

“your threat model is not my threat model”

I look forward to you sharing your expensive & time-consuming win in court with the rest of us – until then, I maintain that normies are never going to do any of this, and nor should they have to 💁‍♀️

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@itgrrl @alan hey that's fair,
I wasn't tryinh implying that, was talking about my own experience (and maybe badly worded)
As I did said each to their own, I fully recognise its not for everyone and did try to express that.
And yes there is some degree of risk people should consider, was only aiming to share my experience for others to weigh up.
No assumption or disrepect intended and my apology if it came across that way. I appreciate and respect
your viewpoint
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@curiously @itgrrl @alan
all good, I appreciate the clarification

apologies if I jumped on your post a little too hard

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@curiously @itgrrl I just want to say that this exchange is exemplar of why I love this platform. I vastly prefer working out misunderstandings over descents into flame wars. Kudos to both of you.
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