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Okay okay okay I am *excited*

Thanks to the kindness of @mhoye , I have now acquired an Artifact. And I am going to get up to some utter nonsense with it

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mcc
@bob I plan to find out
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Chuckling to myself, thinking of how one day people will look at the Apple Vision Pro this way.
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I mean “oh, hey, here’s a flop that never really found its purpose but now, with its old-school vibes and its sense of the road not taken, it’s fun for tinkering!” I absolutely expect the Vision Pro to end up there.
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@inthehands mac pro 2013 in 2013: "what are they thinking??"
mac pro 2013 in 2025: "incredible. a new Shape for my Shape collection"

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@inthehands Maybe! If you can break the Vision Pro's encryption enough to actually tinker with it. Modern Apple is not Old Apple 🙁
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@inthehands
You gotta understand how #Apple work.

Lisa was a precursor to OSX/MacOS
Newton was a precursor to iPads
Apple Vision is a precursor to ...

They release and hype a product to iron out all the bugs, marketing and tech...
With capitalisation greater than the entire state of #Australia, they can afford to.

in reply to Wulfy

@n_dimension Yes, that’s pretty much exactly what I said when the Vision Pro was released! Right down to the Newton comparison (except I view it as an iPhone precursor, not iPad, but nary a diff).

But also:

Newton: released 1993, discontinued 1998(?)
iPhone: released 2007

…so on that timeline, whatever the Apple Vision Pro was the precursor to is due circa 2037.

in reply to mcc

The Newton is such a wonderful platform. Slow, but with amazing character and charm. Have fun, what an incredible gift!
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ah sorry idk why but I got it confused with NewtonScript, which is one of the early prototype-based OO languages
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@zkat It does run NewtonScript. I am very excited about getting to try both NewtonScript and Dylan
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oh beautiful! My dad bought me the eMate a few years back but I haven't thought of anything to do with it yet haha.
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I even have an ISDN card for mine. I wonder if it will still power up? I haven't checked it in years.

There are still things about Newton OS that haven't been improved upon by anything that has come since. Sadly, it got tagged for poor handwriting recognition (that was actually much better than most people remember or realize), and few people ever really got to use it.

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Nice! I really miss mine. It was stolen along with my Virtual Boy and a ton of other stuff in a burglary a while ago. I still have the original keyboard in a box somewhere.

Does it have the internal upgrade to make it a 2100 (the community generally calls a 2000 with the upgrade a 2000u)?

There’s a great developer tool called ViewFrame which lets you poke around in an application’s UI directly on the Newton.

in reply to Zimmie

@bob_zim I don't know. Where should I look for more information about this? Just google "200u"?
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If Apple upgraded it, there’s usually a sticker near the Newton Interconnect Port. To confirm absolutely open Extras, hit the i in the bottom left, and select Memory Info. The 2000 had ~1 MB, and the 2100 (and 2000u) had ~4 MB.

If it doesn’t already have the upgrade, it’s about on par with most retrocomputing upgrades. Rare parts, and brittle case plastic.

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seems appropriate mastodon.social/@splorp/114162…
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And congratulations … we’re happy to help answer any questions that you might have about your wonderful new toy.
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@newtontalk Thanks! I'll be joining the mailing list. My main concern for the moment is figuring out how to get data on and off of it to a modern computer…
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The main trick to that is a serial to USB cable or adapter. Lots of folks on the list have been dealing with that scenario.
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The #Apple #Newton #Messagepad 2100 was just an excellent device. I still miss certain features it had. For example, you could drag text/images with the stylus and drop it at any edge/margin of the application. You could drop as many snippets as you like. Even if you switch to another page, the snippets were still there and you could drop it.

Here is even an enhancement request for #LibreOffice that is inspired by it:
bugs.documentfoundation.org/sh…

@libreoffice @libodesign

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@GerryT @libreoffice @libodesign

The Newton, PalmOS, WebOS and even BB10 all had incredible ideas in them that needed to be killed so that the App Store model could look tolerable.

in reply to mcc

Nice!

I spent hours poking at the demo Newton in a computer store when I was a kid. Like, made multiple trips just to play around with it.

In retrospect I feel lucky the staff didn't kick me out.

in reply to Spinningmind

@spinningmind There was a period that the Newton 200 was available used for like $100 in the back of MacWorld every month… I daydreamed of this so hard in middle school
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ZOMG, I still miss the Newton. I never had a 2000 though.