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NEW: AI bots caused Wikipedia's bandwidth costs to increase by 50 percent last year, and are still growing exponentially. I wrote about its plan to fight back — and whether it will be enough. platformer.news/wikipedia-ai-b…

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in reply to Casey Newton

You'd think the bots would just pull the daily snapshot of all articles and ingest those.
in reply to Casey Newton

I was on a panel with the President of Wikimedia LLC at SXSW and this was brought up. There's audio attached schedule.sxsw.com/2025/events/….

I also like Anna's (Creative Commons) framing of the problem being money + attribution + reciprocity.

in reply to Casey Newton

The bots aren't even doing it right. They could import one of thr regular Wikipedia torrent compilations much faster.
in reply to Casey Newton

AI powered bot nets - the latest energy hog.
theconversation.com/ai-is-bad-…

So much of recent tech development seems geared to profligate wasteful energy use.

Cryptocurrency - energy hog
news.climate.columbia.edu/2022…

AI data centers - energy hog
goldmansachs.com/insights/arti…

Cloud based software platforms & PaaS, Siri, Alexis, "Smart Appliances", NFT's - all energy hogs

ChatGPT - energy hog
euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03…

washingtonpost.com/technology/…

nature.com/articles/d41586-024…

No wonder petrostate ...

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in reply to Casey Newton

Wouldn't blocking the bots from Wikipedia do the trick? Or at the very least rate limit them...
in reply to 🍻 Alexander 🇪🇺

@MostlyHarmless one of the things I write about here is that it's difficult to tell what's a bot, and even if you block one they'll just change their identity and start over
in reply to Casey Newton

are they going to use some iocaine for the llm scrapper or other methods ?
in reply to Casey Newton

1) I don't have one. 2) I believe information should be available without any blockades which this one is.

You promote your post here, yet don't bother to give a clear indicator that full access is only possible via a subscription, which imo is a bad and missleading behaviour here.
But whatever.

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in reply to Casey Newton

As does every other job in the world.
Yet many newssite/service usually doesn't have such methods in place and instead goes with the usual ads-aproach, which is annoying, yet doesn't block you from reading stuff...

I mean, since it's about wikipedia/mediawiki, how would you feel about wanting to research something, seeing a Wikipedia entry, only to get like the summary and a big box telling you "Get the full article with Wikipedia+!"? I personally wouldn't bother using that site.