@YBG pern You trade with leverage? A trick we did long ago is hedging, you short on futures as most buy, you get every 8hrs a funding and on spot trade you long your ETH to compensate the loss in the short. You may be red but I would hold as long you don't close the futures contract and have enough collateral.
@YBG pern then just hold it. What I explained was betting on Futures, a long is buying and a short is selling but with leverage like 1x up to 100x your sum.
@zer0unplanned i think kraken lets you do that with crypto with "perps". fuckers need me to be employed for it doe xd so i can't do it. not that i want to trade on leverage that shit sounds scary as hell.
yea i'm planning on hodling. its what it is. @sun says the whole crypto market is going kaboom on october 12th 2026 so i'm scared.
@YBG pern @Blurry Moon Don't bet on Futures is best, holding your coins and if you can stake them so you get a daily % more of it.
That 2026 october fairy tales are as old as since it was tradeable. In the long run you win just by keeping your coins.
Consider a Ledger Hardware USB Wallet to store your coins as no market site is 100% safe, we've seen many examples in the past. It's good to buy there and then transfer to your l;edger and also why ETH? their costs to transfer or cash out (Gas fees) are very high.
i used to stake atom and scrt on kraken because the apr was aparantly pretty good. But good God i should've looked at the graphs, completely dead shitcoins
@YBG pern @Blurry Moon Choosing the right coins needs a lot of research as they say do your own research or DYOR is a natural aspect as reading the White Paper , Use case(s), news , Trends on the chart before you buy etc.
@YBG pern @Nigger_Deluxe lol, you can swap it though but that needs a transaction unless you can swap in the Kraken app as It's so many years ago when I was into that shit, BTC worth was 8K back then.. and ETH was only 127$. If I held all ...
@YBG pern @Nigger_Deluxe yeah , I had bad luck and had to pay off a very large sum brother, so I sold just to pay of debts and now I pay off the last part with my monthly revenue In the end I traded my left coins and I bought each month to have an extra back as double the cash but I got tired of 16hrs/day screen watching graphs and news. I did bought in the end some coins that were 0,000001 and the likes of 1$-3$ for a worth that was left before I was about to be legally bound to pay of debts with a regulation and I put them on my Ledger wallet for 2030. And I chose all what was about AI.
@zer0unplanned I sold all my crypto in 2020 cause I heard Biden was going to start going after crypto holders and they came to be very true. It's all fake anyways it doesn't exist gold and silver for the win
@Nigger_Deluxe @YBG pern Yes there was this regulation of Crypto back then that is right it was when I sold to pay of debts.. now look, they got us all rug pulled! Gold does weird now with the Oil crisis in Iran. But indeed it stays the best holding as many other emerging matters.
@zer0unplanned I sold so I didn't have to worry about being targeted it was the best choice. It's no longer the wonder anonymous money it once touted so it's useless for what I bought it for no matter how the market valuates it. Besides the only reason it looks that way is cause inflation is actually showing in that asset just think of that even with their "regulations" they haven't been able to hide it. Were in for a wild ride buy bullets and gold. And dogs
@Nigger_Deluxe @YBG pern I totally agreee with you , the centralization partly of it and traceability were a concern, for me more so about taxes on gained assets. We both sold the news as they say it. Most;y Lagarde concerned me from the Central bank
@Nigger_Deluxe @YBG pern Also I saw many that had success that started earlier, living in Dubai and riding the Lambo etc, the to the moon guys were right, I was a notorious shorter in futures on Binance just for the 8hrs funding even if I was in red I had my few hundred dollars (depending how much you threw in it) And I sold man, but as I said those AI use cased coins are gonna be big by the time I paid of all debts as they dunno about ledger wallets is the most private and safety you can have for 2030 bro by 2020 I decided to go more into networking and cybersec etc than Crypto. I used to make smart contracts written in Scilla for the coin Zilliqa and was more into the use cases of each instead of it's net worth
@YBG pern @Nigger_Deluxe 2022 Ukraine war and CIA psyops under the Fellas brought me deeper into this Cyber culture. I hated them though I knew they were 3 letters or glowies but the trend gave me education.
@Nigger_Deluxe @YBG pern many were betting on Oil and LPG and they were right, if I remember well those were Jews serving in the army to work in the Iron Dome.. Many things in commodity has been hijacked as we saw recently and look at Chevron and Shell and Co how they rise in price. 7Th Octobre was about the sea gas fields at Gaza shore not a terrorist attack, look NordStream and Arctic Sentry at Greenland. Who has the largest reserve LNG by far? USA
@zer0unplanned problem with that is were set for a cratering so all that "wealth" they generated is gonna evaporate and they're too greedy to sell or relevel their asset allocations so they'll lose it all. Look at the repo markets in cars and new car sales people can't afford nor qualify for vehicles so it won't matter how much it's worth if no one can buy it let alone people having no reason to since they can't get a vehicle. We're on par for a correction of regulations like never seen they've choked consumers to death and locked out most any one who could possibly afford it
@Nigger_Deluxe @YBG pern many new changes, USA pushes for LNG as replacement for the petro dollar that does not exist anymore or will be finished soon instead the petro Gas dollar as asset wheras they would be dominant in simply the LNG supplier. Now there is a pivot to the China and Russia and east south world with their emerging Tech so the period now to invest is very dangerous as well as leaving it on a banc account to spare cash at low interest rate. What if it's war?
@zer0unplanned I've seen multiple nations dealing with bank runs because they're all dealing in fractional banking. Soon the whole world will realize theyve been robbed and their money got wasted on CEO bonuses and risky lending like options and other retarded shit. I keep gold but money means nothing learning how to generate it is what matters no matter the medium of exchange imo at least that's my take these days. I wouldn't trust a bank as far as I could throw it the fdic can't ensure more than 10% of it's margin of covered and insured assets. I'm excited to see oil spike to like $90 a gallon that's when the real fun starts, when everyone gets landlocked cause they can't physically move themselves. Oh @hakui is also amazingly smart with finance he's fun to tag in finbro stuff I tag him in all my gold and silver hauls he's always hating on my 9k gold lol
@Nigger_Deluxe @御園はくい @YBG pern Yeah the infamous bailout.. whereas a bail in does not exist nor the definition bail out is just an synonym to scam or legal robbery, but same goes for Gold banks or your assets if war breaks out all can be seized. Safest deposit I found so far is that usb Ledger hardwallet with coins on it in the hope you can cash them out once in a lifetime.
@zer0unplanned @hakui I've thought about buying a little in cake probably only monero cause they wash all the transactions daily in a single transaction making tracking harder but I can't imagine a situation where gold would fail and monero would be better suited. I can stab and shoot anyone trying to steal my gold cryptos not like that tho having a hedge is always a good idea diversity is strength when it comes to assets
@Nigger_Deluxe @御園はくい @YBG pern Monero seem to stay stable in price so long I know it and I know it's easy to mine it with any pc, off course the more RAM and GPU the more you get over a year and stays so far unbroken as privacy coin, I love Monero. But you can sit at ease with what I saw know that these bars will cost immensly more at collapse, so don't get robbed lol
@Nigger_Deluxe @御園はくい @YBG pern That is the main trade off , you can't just carry gold accross borders or even have it physically only in little quantity, so better have an usb with digital worth in the pocket. And such scenario where I see this being true is when all collapses and people accept crypto or anything else with worth. So the timeline is ok for me 2030 if I survive.
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@zer0unplanned @hakui oh u haven't heard of holdbacks have u¿ I could hide 10 oz easy in the walls of a camper. I have 1/10 of an oz in holdbacks rn I wanna get more but that's the real value of those they're easy to sneak around. Unmarked jewelry too they'd be none the wiser they're looking for bars and the such
@Lyx @zer0unplanned the premiums on goldbacks are ridiculous though lol
if you want to move large amounts across borders the best way to do so is probably a luxury watch. sure you'll take a hit when selling it but that's like every other method too
@hakui @zer0unplanned I've wanted to buy scrap gold watches most jewelry isn't counted in that the problem is most of them are gf or rg so u have to be very careful. Tho I would like to start that my jobs just been shit for months lol
@YBG pern @御園はくい @Nigger_Deluxe I don't as I explained but worked as tele operator for an insurance company those guys you have on the phone if you have a breakdown with your car or get stranded in nowhere's land etc.. I managed the taxi, the tow truck the hotel the repatriation of the persons and cars if their contracts permits it.
@YBG pern @御園はくい @Nigger_Deluxe I'm mentally disabled ( CPTS and the rest ) so it's wellfare but for that over here you have to work at least 15 years to have the right for it> I worked 18 years then they placed me into that system and as such I'm home. If I could afford the Certs online I could make cash from home, but I lack the cash as I explained for now.
@zer0unplanned @hakui I qualify for welfare and have been told I should take it in 2 states but out here that's slavery. I've never seen anyone get a good outcome from welfare it's caps your potential and disincentivises working harder or picking up more hours. I'd rather make it in the struggle the grits what I live for lol
@Nigger_Deluxe @御園はくい @YBG pern I live in West EU near the Capital of it with different rules per regio. It is not given forever if economy collapse I will get no thing, and it goes that way with this chokehold in the Strait of Hormuz. Watch your Gold price go crazy up and down in contrast with the Brent Barrel prices> it hedges
@Nigger_Deluxe @御園はくい @YBG pern I had no 2nd choice.. Also the plan I choose as wellfare is doomed for me till retirement age which is 67 here to pay off debts I cut off 8 years and all debts are dissolved. I coukld never pay it back at interests also the interests go away so it's net debt worth but it last 8 years , nearly 3 to go now. and that would be the next cycle of BTC to go up. 2nd choice is stay with debth with interest mounting and all stuff confiscated. Luckily we have a lwa around here bout that to stop just that. That means 8 years in some sort of financial custody by a lawyer that takes your case and pay off less then I would if calculated without the interests. And for real, face it. No interests , all what has not been payed is excused after 8 years which is much more then I would pay off and they can not touch me is a great deal. And this all is by Law ordered by a judge pf the labour instance. You guy's in USA don't have such deals or buy outs, which does not diminish my life's living on top.
@hakui @zer0unplanned but yeah the gbs have a terrible premium funne enough, I bought them around 2900 so I've actually made green zone with them. I never thought it would happen so quick but they're more of an ideological buy and a bet on collapse of that happened they'd skyrocket in value
@RedTechEngineer @YBG pern @御園はくい @Nigger_Deluxe Also, never give up your red as hell short - 4k just keep add collateral and you win in the end in mean time reap the fundings every 8hours
Although volatile as hell to trade on futures to start with and it stays forever in the same price range or gets up a $ each 5 years or so, I call this a stablecoin lol
@zer0unplanned @RedTechEngineer @hakui he had a legit following I even warned and dogged on verita cause he kept following jonnys advice. As I understand it he lost a shit ton of money when it tanked but that's the result of listening to Jonny the alcoholic child rapist lol
@Nigger_Deluxe @御園はくい @RedTechEngineer @YBG pern who's Jonny? aah that one? Is he alcoholic?? Anyway we always say do your own research or DYOR never listen to another instead go against what he said and show him. in mean time combatting some turd calling me racist some hillbilly redneck mf calling himself antifascist etc as it's the hype who blocked me but yet keeps replying to me..
@zer0unplanned @Hoss is the biggest finance man I know of here he's all into the markets futures commodities all that good stuff he's a hoot to chat with
@zer0unplanned then u bought ur freedom I've always told people the best investment u can make is paying off debt and never taking any back out. Leverage only works for business personal loans are one of the worst decisions society has allowed to permit. If u can't afford it using someone else's money won't change that lol the interest just makes u even more insolvent.
@Nigger_Deluxe @YBG pern That is right, mostly with my humble income I have a sort of protection by law but my cash is now in hands of some lawyer that gives me my weekly cash to get around and pays my bill's until 2030 I'm not permitted to make more debts then all debts will be pardoned. They dunno about my Ledger so far I'm nearly 4 years going on.
@zer0unplanned i make tip money and I make less that 5-8k a year on books so I'm untaxable I've done the 16 shifts 4 days a week on 76k a year got me through raising the kids but I would never do it again. I value my time and my peace more than paper nigger notes lol
@Nigger_Deluxe @YBG pern Well at least it sound like you made it and had a well payed Job, well done if you did it by yourself from scrap and yeah if you have fam, then family time is important instead of working ya ass off and have no time for them. I wish you best
@YBG pern Hey Pern bruh, also a good lesson is buy fear and sell greed. Now was the time to buy alternative.me/crypto/fear-and… back then I would wait for the pivot standard level to buy and long all ahead with extreme fear Even the moon cycles have effect mind you, I swear.
@zer0unplanned i buy every dip or so i thought. It looked like a fip from the 5 year view. I guess ill juz hoddle for 5 years or until my shi turnd green again
@YBG pern Than you are SAFU ( Secure Asset Fund for User )
You guy's brought me back in that mood, I might throw in a 20 $ just to make a 100$ of it, I'll show you how I did it and with video and graphical measuring tools and news headlines.
I was good and known on Binance back then. just gotta look in that lawsheet if I'm aloud to speculate the crypto markets as I mainly buy from KuKoin and Binance
Also in crypto I was in the Bear team so we shorted mostly and this is a perfect time.
NO, I can't as each and all income must go the debtors. I have to wait after death.
@YBG pern @YBG pern Ever heard of the Invisible Hand of the Market? In trading your opponent is that, the very market. In holding only and wait you don't have that hand and as such win as trading or betting is betting against the market.
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •What I explained was betting on Futures, a long is buying and a short is selling but with leverage like 1x up to 100x your sum.
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in reply to Plan-A̵̛͈̬̥̿͋̓͛̕ • • •@zer0unplanned i think kraken lets you do that with crypto with "perps". fuckers need me to be employed for it doe xd so i can't do it. not that i want to trade on leverage that shit sounds scary as hell.
yea i'm planning on hodling. its what it is. @sun says the whole crypto market is going kaboom on october 12th 2026 so i'm scared.
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •@YBG pern @Blurry Moon Don't bet on Futures is best, holding your coins and if you can stake them so you get a daily % more of it.
That 2026 october fairy tales are as old as since it was tradeable.
In the long run you win just by keeping your coins.
Consider a Ledger Hardware USB Wallet to store your coins as no market site is 100% safe, we've seen many examples in the past. It's good to buy there and then transfer to your l;edger and also why ETH? their costs to transfer or cash out (Gas fees) are very high.
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i used to stake atom and scrt on kraken because the apr was aparantly pretty good. But good God i should've looked at the graphs, completely dead shitcoins
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •@YBG pern @Blurry Moon Choosing the right coins needs a lot of research as they say do your own research or DYOR is a natural aspect as reading the White Paper , Use case(s), news , Trends on the chart before you buy etc.
Look if the code s audited as well on github
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •In the end I traded my left coins and I bought each month to have an extra back as double the cash but I got tired of 16hrs/day screen watching graphs and news.
I did bought in the end some coins that were 0,000001 and the likes of 1$-3$ for a worth that was left before I was about to be legally bound to pay of debts with a regulation and I put them on my Ledger wallet for 2030. And I chose all what was about AI.
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • — (0.0.0.0) •now look, they got us all rug pulled!
Gold does weird now with the Oil crisis in Iran. But indeed it stays the best holding as many other emerging matters.
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • — (0.0.0.0) •Most;y Lagarde concerned me from the Central bank
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • — (0.0.0.0) •And I sold man, but as I said those AI use cased coins are gonna be big by the time I paid of all debts as they dunno about ledger wallets is the most private and safety you can have for 2030 bro
by 2020 I decided to go more into networking and cybersec etc than Crypto.
I used to make smart contracts written in Scilla for the coin Zilliqa and was more into the use cases of each instead of it's net worth
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • — (0.0.0.0) •7Th Octobre was about the sea gas fields at Gaza shore not a terrorist attack, look NordStream and Arctic Sentry at Greenland. Who has the largest reserve LNG by far? USA
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • — (0.0.0.0) •Safest deposit I found so far is that usb Ledger hardwallet with coins on it in the hope you can cash them out once in a lifetime.
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • — (0.0.0.0) •And such scenario where I see this being true is when all collapses and people accept crypto or anything else with worth. So the timeline is ok for me 2030 if I survive.
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in reply to Plan-A̵̛͈̬̥̿͋̓͛̕ • • •@zer0unplanned @hakui oh u haven't heard of holdbacks have u¿ I could hide 10 oz easy in the walls of a camper. I have 1/10 of an oz in holdbacks rn I wanna get more but that's the real value of those they're easy to sneak around. Unmarked jewelry too they'd be none the wiser they're looking for bars and the such
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if you want to move large amounts across borders the best way to do so is probably a luxury watch. sure you'll take a hit when selling it but that's like every other method too
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •If I could afford the Certs online I could make cash from home, but I lack the cash as I explained for now.
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • — (0.0.0.0) •2nd choice is stay with debth with interest mounting and all stuff confiscated. Luckily we have a lwa around here bout that to stop just that.
That means 8 years in some sort of financial custody by a lawyer that takes your case and pay off less then I would if calculated without the interests.
And for real, face it. No interests , all what has not been payed is excused after 8 years which is much more then I would pay off and they can not touch me is a great deal.
And this all is by Law ordered by a judge pf the labour instance.
You guy's in USA don't have such deals or buy outs, which does not diminish my life's living on top.
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in reply to RedTechEngineer • • •@RedTechEngineer @zer0unplanned @hakui every nigga who took financial advice from jonny fever to buy xrp rn lol
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • — (0.0.0.0) •@Nigger_Deluxe @御園はくい @RedTechEngineer @YBG pern Haha, There always were these XRP fan's dunno why, it never moved.
Although volatile as hell to trade on futures to start with and it stays forever in the same price range or gets up a $ each 5 years or so, I call this a stablecoin lol
And what is it's use case?
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Also you mentioned Jonny.. He acts like hatings Jews while the key holder of it is Berchmann Sachs
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • •They dunno about my Ledger so far I'm nearly 4 years going on.
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in reply to Nigger_Deluxe • •I wish you best
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •Now was the time to buy
alternative.me/crypto/fear-and…
back then I would wait for the pivot standard level to buy and long all ahead with extreme fear
Even the moon cycles have effect mind you, I swear.
Crypto Fear & Greed Index - Bitcoin Sentiment
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •@YBG pern Than you are SAFU
( Secure Asset Fund for User )
You guy's brought me back in that mood, I might throw in a 20 $ just to make a 100$ of it, I'll show you how I did it and with video and graphical measuring tools and news headlines.
I was good and known on Binance back then.
just gotta look in that lawsheet if I'm aloud to speculate the crypto markets as I mainly buy from KuKoin and Binance
Also in crypto I was in the Bear team so we shorted mostly and this is a perfect time.
NO, I can't as each and all income must go the debtors. I have to wait after death.
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •@YBG pern @YBG pern Ever heard of the Invisible Hand of the Market?
In trading your opponent is that, the very market.
In holding only and wait you don't have that hand and as such win as trading or betting is betting against the market.
edit: why? because the market is against you.
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in reply to YBG pern • — (0.0.0.0) •@YBG pern pernia still sleeping or having a terrible hangover yet.
update: he just get out and got his machines running from under the dust.
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