❝The Newsom podcasts gutted me. I’m not bothered that he’s talking to conservatives. I’m an organizer. I’m all about outreach. The idea that you should be willing to talk anybody about what you believe and why you believe it is embedded deep in my soul. But the whole reason you have conversations like that is so that you stand up for those who aren’t in the room.❞
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Ethan Marcotte (@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com)
“You’re always allowed to say no. You don’t actually have to throw anybody under the bus. You can in fact say that the laid-off auto worker deserves sympathy, but so does the single mom on welfare and the trans teenager who loves volleyball and the V…beepin’
Paul Cantrell
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Marc Trius (@alter_kaker@hachyderm.io)
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in reply to Paul Cantrell • • •the thing is that what most people want is to make it to tomorrow with a roof over their head and food on the table. Next to those considerations, matters of conscience, and the day after tomorrow, are of less immediate concern. This is the vast camp, which Garrett forgets about, of people who are probably not pro-repression but whose strongest commitment is to survival for themselves and their families.
And definitionally those people who are *not being repressed right now* are likely to benefit at least a little from repressions. Especially when there's high unemployment, resources become more scarce due to climate change... And horribly, those who *are being repressed right now* are out of the equation... I think that Garret's point (specifically about what's definitional) is not borne out by the reality and historical experience of repressive regimes. We need hope desperately, but it needs to be grounded in something other than an abstract belief that good ideals will win with some kind of mathematical inevitability.
Luke (Shiv)
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in reply to Luke (Shiv) • • •Whose failure? Failure can be defined only in relation to a goal. Certainly it's a terrible defeat for humanity, but from the perspective of the people we have in power, it's a success
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Paul Cantrell
in reply to Marc Trius • • •All of the above, both posts.