I am an adult. I’m short, yes, but this is ridiculous. The hood on this truck is higher than my shoulder. It forms in 90° angle with the ground. hideous! There’s no way they could see me in the crosswalk.
They were double parked. Even with the engine off it felt unsafe to walk in front of this thing. I would be so embarrassed to drive a car like this if I were not … plowing snow?
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Abyssal Rook
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Kid Mania
in reply to Abyssal Rook • • •🤠 YEEEEEEEEHAAAAWWW
Once a symbol of rural grit, the presence of the best-selling pickup truck in a song may now mean something else.
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Aaron
in reply to Kid Mania • • •@clintruin
Another reason to hate them.
@AbyssalRook @futurebird
Gurre Vildskägg
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Ban them. Outright ban.
Fronts of cars/trucks/buses/lorries... need to be regulated to be designed with pedestrian safety as 99% of the priorities. Including how big the direct lines of sight are, and to do away with the kill zones where drivers can't see.
Gurre Vildskägg
in reply to Gurre Vildskägg • • •Yes, this means the new USPS trucks are about what the fronts of anything big should look like. Including the very visible position of the driver.
image source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshkosh_…
planned postal service vehicle for USPS
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in reply to Gurre Vildskägg • • •i need to preface that i agree with you 1,000%
i just can't get over how fussy and grumpy they look 😆
Gurre Vildskägg
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •@benroyce
ah, but we solve that by banning car fronts that look angry, predatory, annoyed, grumpy, and/or aggressive.
actually... yeah. Neutral, happy, or friendly "faces", and duckbilled fronts with huge windows so everyone sees eachother.
Might make road rage go down?
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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
in reply to Gurre Vildskägg • • •@Gurre
are you saying you don't like my car? 🤭
(/s)
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Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •This machine called me an asshole - Maximum Overdrive
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in reply to Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 • • •clew
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •Cab-over can be cheerful without that duckbill look
Commercial cab-over still too big, but there are boxy lil things trying it
They look as if there’s less crumple protection but their advocates say it’s equal, as you now don’t need to be protected from your own engine . Dunno, but it’s testable!
@benroyce @Gurre @futurebird
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Gurre Vildskägg • • •@Gurre
This mail truck is cute, but I think it will be annoying to have to keep shooing people who will sit on it like a bench when you park it away.
I guess if you start it up they might go?
Do electric cars have a start up sound?
Ω 🌍 Gus Posey
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Veronica Olsen 🏳️🌈🇳🇴🌻
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Thanasis Kinias
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I remember when I was a kid, they were starting to bring in snub-nosed schoolbuses because of how dangerous it was that drivers couldn’t see children walking in front of the old long-nosed models. Now basically *all* buses are like that—but yet somehow, 40 years on, we’ve normalized these monstrosities.
They should be illegal.
Eowyn
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •John Francis 🦫🇨🇦🍁💪⬆️
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •never see these plowing snow - too fancy, and too long, and terrible visibility.
Large commercial driveway clearing companies use smallish agricultural tractors with a snowblower attachment.
Small independent operations use an old, short box regular cab truck from the 90's or earlier. Easy to maneuver, and cheap to repair.
After 1 season, everything plastic on the outside of that will be broken. Clients aren't happy if you plow the rosebushes into the garage door.
Alessandro Corazza 🇨🇦
in reply to John Francis 🦫🇨🇦🍁💪⬆️ • • •@johnefrancis
I've seen pickups described as the modern version of the huge 70s "personal luxury coupe" and thought that was just perfect. The size serves no purpose other than, massaging the driver's ego.
@futurebird
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Aaron
in reply to Alessandro Corazza 🇨🇦 • • •@alessandro
It is 100% ego, as anyone unfortunate enough to know a person who drives one of these can tell you.
@johnefrancis @futurebird
Hektor
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •The Trum is ridiculous and dangerous to others.
JWcph, Radicalized By Decency
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •George B
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •The city really should be leading the charge on pedestrian safety standards in the same way that California is doing with emissions standards
They should not be street legal here (maybe with a CDL) and should be towed any time one is seen whose owner did not register it to prove they have a CDL or if they are parked even a little bit illegally.
katzenberger
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Aaron
in reply to Michal Bryxí • • •@MichalBryxi
I already do this. Likewise for the jerks who drive fast down neighborhood streets in sportscars, blare bass, or otherwise pathetically seek attention. It's gross. We are all human. We all matter. None of us matters more than the others, and none of us *needs* to matter more than the others. People like that are broadcasting their insecurities and selfishness, and making life miserable or dangerous for everyone else in the process. They need to grow up, for everyone's sake, including themselves.
But I live in a country where it's so commonplace that we elected the worst of them all -- the neediest, most insecure, and least mature person we could find -- to build expensive anachronistic palatial ballrooms and decorate everything with gold spray-painted trinkets.
@futurebird
Panda
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Matt Hall
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •It's kinda like owning a giant dog that you can't control... It makes _you_ feel safer.
I guess.
I dunno. I don't own a giant dog that I can't control or a giant truck that I can't control.
I'm not even sure it's ego that moves people to buy these things... I think it might actually be _fear_, as counter-intuitive as that might sound.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Matt Hall • • •@401matthall
Until it mauls your kid.
That’s who gets hit most often— kids in driveways.
Matt Hall
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in reply to EndicottRoad59 • • •Weirdly I see them all the time with disability parking permits. If you can't walk a few feet to the door, why do you need a vehicle you literally have to climb in and out of?
run_atalanta 😷💯
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Miredly
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I got rear ended by one of these almost a year ago because he pulled up behind me at a light, lost my ENTIRE CAR in his blindspot, and forgot I was there. Light turned green and he went before I did.
I flinch a little every time I see one in my rear view mirror now.
Elle Turkey Platter
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I'm visiting Mexico, and they have little mini pickups and I love them. One of those massive Rams or F150s wouldn't make it around the tiny streets and sharp turns.
Where I live everyone drives these massive trucks, pretending to be a cowboy. They are really babymen.
elle mundy
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •i view these massive trucks, massive SUVs, as a parallel to american gun culture
this zero sum, absolutely psychotic need for overpower. carrying around a handgun, because "the guy with a knife." when more have handguns, you "need" to carry around an AK-47, etc, etc, all the way to "i need my own nuclear bomb"
the parallel "logic" with tank cars is that in an accident, the other sap dies, not you in your tank
(better road safety and gun control is never considered by psychos)
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lemgandi
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in reply to lemgandi • • •Shit now I need a neutron bomb
AT Hayes
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •@benroyce @lemgandi Why have a potpourri bowl when you can instead fill one with
youtu.be/bStsof9p7Mc
Because He's holding a Thermal Detonator!!
YouTubeBent Chinrest
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Anna
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •apologies for sounding like a European, and a European who lives in a car-free city to boot, but,
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING
JUST ABSOLUTELY NO
Kim Possible
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Aaron
in reply to Raku.Anarchy • • •@greg_b
Cheetolini's disease?
@futurebird
Airikr
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Is it okay for me now to say that I hate such vehicles?
It feels like they are built for people (especially "men" (boys)) who wants to be biggest, better, best over all. I tend to watch American dashcam videos on YouTube and most of them who road rage use big trucks. Some of them even pulls out a weapon like a gun or a baseball bat.
I saw a video on TikTok before TikTok became a popular platform for religious extremists (for an example flat earthers) and other idiots. That video shows an American male living in Sweden and he lists top 3 or 5 he miss the most from USA. The first one that he missed the most was "big, fat trucks"
Aaron
in reply to Airikr • • •@airikr
Mah truck is bigger'n yer truck. That means ahm better then yoo!
@futurebird
Aaron
in reply to Aaron • • •@airikr
I'm surrounded by these fools. I need to move.
@futurebird
Airikr
in reply to Aaron • • •Yes, you need to. Or better yet, let them move to 1 place where all "bigger, better, best over all" trucker lovers can thrive. And don't let any police go near that place to see if they can handle it.
Am I too dark?
Aaron
in reply to Airikr • • •@airikr
I try not to, but I have had similar thoughts.
@futurebird
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •These Stupid Trucks are Literally Killing Us
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •James
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •GhostOnTheHalfShell
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •A few years ago, I walked across on intersection and the girl in a suburban one of those really large ones from five or seven years ago was in it. She could barely see over the dashboard.
A cussed her out for nearly running me over. It’s all forms of stupidity..
IainB
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •BedastGPT
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I don't think it could ever be understated how much of a problem these are.
A lot of police departments have moved to large SUVs with frontends like this. I was rear-ended by a cop in my small car because I disappeared under his hood at a stop sign and he thought I had made my turn.
There was a crosswalk there. It was right next to the police station, too, which was across the street from an apartment building where children live.
Gergovie
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Patty 6-7. I have no idea...
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •These make little sense where road conditions or loads do not require them. I live rurally, where hilly muddy dirt roads are ubiquitous, and high snows make low clearance vehicles useless. We are a low traffic area where walkers and horses and loose dogs and chickens are not uncommon.
But a large vehicle in an urban area is an unnecessary liability for all.
Quinn9282 🖥️🌙✌️
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Tomás Hradcky
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Viral Obscurity
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •although we are not plagued by large vehicles in the UK to the extent you are in theue US, they are becoming a problem here
The common view here is still that those (usually men) who drive the larger vehicles in towns and cities are clearly over compensating for something
Kit
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Olaf Kock
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •use _that_ for plowing snow?
...meanwhile in Germany...
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Olaf Kock • • •@olafk
This is very cute but I think the snow we get when we do get snow (which isn't often, but still) well it would eat this little car.
Olaf Kock
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •this one is mainly used on pedestrian paths, where adjacent house owners are supposed to plow snow (and sometimes book a service like this)
The city, for the streets, has proper heavy duty vehicles
Clutha🏴🇸🇩🇺🇦
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •UzakL
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •"SUPER DUTY"
more like super dooty
TBF I have noticed they have commercial plates, but they were still double parked on a NYC residential street. Just don't ever do that.
llewelly
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •sooper dookie
sooper dog dookie
myrmepropagandist
in reply to llewelly • • •@llewelly
"SUPER DUTY"
Is so ... child-like. Doesn't any of this trigger any feelings of embarrassment?
I'm going to put: "UBER SHELPPER" on my shopping cart.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to llewelly • • •@llewelly
I legit do not know what "super duty" is supposed to mean at all? What are they trying to say?
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A Flock of Beagles
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@llewelly
probably a means to make a lot of bullshit claims about what a unnecessarily gigantic truck can do.
katzenberger
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Maybe the car was built to cope with an extreme pedestrians / area quotient.
It's nothing personal, it's just their duty.™
@llewelly
João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@llewelly
commercial classifications of trucks
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)myrmepropagandist
in reply to João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121) • • •@jt_rebelo @llewelly
*begrudgingly*
well I suppose that makes sense.
... still sounds silly.
João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •If not actively used in a setting that warrants that kind of truck I always think the driver is missing something somewhere and is trying to compensate for it.
@llewelly
australopithecus
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •It's absolutely 100% silly marketing nonsense, because it actually signifies a lower power class than the heavy duty designation.
Ben Ramsey
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •WTL
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Josh
in reply to WTL • • •Josh
in reply to Josh • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to Josh • • •@josh0 @WTL @llewelly
As someone with five bolo ties I think this is kinda cute.
I mean *for a car*
Josh
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to Josh • • •@josh0 @WTL @llewelly
Honestly, I've never owned a car in my life, but if I ever have to I would want a nice truck, like from a country song. Not a big tumorous looking one, but something elegant your dog could ride in while you think about why she left you.
Josh
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to Josh • • •@josh0 @WTL @llewelly
OK. I can see how you thought that's what I was saying ... OMG.
A Flock of Beagles
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to A Flock of Beagles • • •@burnitdown
It is a lane of traffic! They are double parked blocking the street which is only 1.5 lanes wide as it is (with the parked cars on both sides.)
*|FNAME|*
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Dave Rahardja
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I always feel that these silly urban trucks are the modern equivalent of high heels in Renaissance Europe. High heels were a *practical* invention that let horseback riders maintain a firm foothold on the stirrups, but they eventually became the status symbols of aristocrats. French men in tights wore heels in the 17th century *because* they were impractical. They couldn’t walk on muddy or cobblestoned streets or for long distances with them on, but THAT WAS THE POINT. They wanted to show that they *didn’t have to* walk like a commoner; society had to *accommodate* them.
(Women started wearing heels in the 18th century, and men lost interest soon afterward, because…obvious reasons).
I think men driving alone in sparkling clean F-250s, and having trouble fitting into parking spots even in huge suburban malls, are exhibiting similar behavior: the truck is primarily a flex. The cumbersomeness and socially-maladapted inconvenience of the truck IS THE POINT. Society simply has to *accommodate* them.
John Burns
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Some newer cars have auto-engine stop when vehicle is stopped (usually at stoplight). (e.g. fuel-saving purpose)
I don't know if this type of vehicle has that...
So don't ever assume it won't move toward you, even if it appears to be off, or that the driver isn't leaning away from driving position.
#PSA
🤔
mbpaz
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I can hardly think of any vehicle with a front visibility as poor as that oversized truck. A tank, maybe?
Nostrodingle
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •In the south, of course, there are people actively trying to do worse. Because, you know.
This has perplexed me for years, not only on safety but style as well... I can only guess that somebody saw a truck in the shop with its engine out and thought "Hey, that looks pretty snazzy. I want my truck to look like it's partly disassembled, too."
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Nostrodingle • • •@Nostrodingle
It looks like it is trying to fly...
WearyBonnie
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Galad
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •David W. Jones
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Thierry Van Kerm
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@IngridHbn
such cars should simply be banned. They should not exist.
That's where I blame designers (I used to be one of them...) for even imagining such a stupid engine.
Niek van Leeuwen
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I don't often draw people but this car inspired me to make a sketch I hope I can render into something worth showing some day.
Basically, a group of kids and adults are running across the crosswalk with ice cream, and pinwheels from NYC street fair. They are looking at each other and having a wonderful time.
Meanwhile, in the dim narrow window of the car, the driver leans forward frowning, straining, looking down to try to see what's going on right in front of them.
Life is passing you by.
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myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •The windows are tinted, or at least shaded, the car is so tall and high you can hardly see. The car is sound insulated and there is even noise canceling so nothing from the outside world can reach you in there.
And maybe the computer will drive for you sometimes too. It's like you never left your house. The world cannot touch you. You are alone.
Do we ever talk about how cars make people lonely?
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Kris
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Ray Bradbury did, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pede…
Featured in thewaroncars.org/2022/03/29/th…
short story by Ray Bradbury
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Are these people really so fragile they need to be packed in a padded box like brittle bone China just to drive to the store? Would a summer breeze knock you over? Would the shouts of children at the playground shatter your ears? Is the sunlight on a bright summer day too bright for your eyes?
Is life too much for you?
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •also, there's an environmental impact.
Make the streets unhealthy for SUVs?
Tyre Extinguishers:
"I’m treated to a solemn demonstration of the process: a masked figure removes the valve-cap from a looming Porsche, adds a lentil and returns the cap – tightening until it hisses. The whole thing takes about ten seconds. “They generally go flat within about an hour,”
vice.com/en/article/who-are-th…
Tyre Extinguishers: A Night Out with the Climate Activists Sabotaging SUVs
Douglas Rogers (VICE)Flic
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Many of those oversized cars have a camera to see what's in front of the driver.
But soon or later the screen will start to show ads instead of the road, until the driver will pay for a subscription to the service…
myrmepropagandist
in reply to rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua • • •@GustavinoBevilacqua
People talk about "screen time" but looking at a screen to see something that you ought to be able to see by, well, looking right at it with your eyes is a new level of unreality.
Will people allow themselves to be sealed off from the world so completely that *nothing* is experienced directly?
(That said, rear-view cameras are kind of awesome, but this tech has only really been developed so much because of the poor sight-lines of what passes for car design.)
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Flic
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua • • •@GustavinoBevilacqua
Oddly enough it's the same people who have been talking about their fear of pods and being forced to eat soy who have put themselves in literal isolation pods.
Number6
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I want them to put those cameras on the *front* of the car.
There's times when it's easier to move backwards than forwards, thanks to the rear camera and of course incredibly bad sight-lines on the front.
But I'm so out of touch, I suppose now you'll tell me they already do.
Edit: I see someone mentions front cameras.
katzenberger
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •FYI, here's a Mercedes Benz video ad from 1990 that might answer some of your questions.
Designed to be openly racist, too, down to its very core (note the attitudes shown in every mini-event; the sound design; how the locals get pictured). It's title is "Willkommen zu Hause" (Welcome Home), and it is set in – Tunesia.
Invidious
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Mercedes Werbung 1990 Willkommen zu Hause
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myrmepropagandist
in reply to katzenberger • • •@katzenberger
I understand from the way it's put together I'm supposed to sympathize with the guy but I just watched thinking "wow what a huge asshole" the whole time.
And the ad is racist, but in that way where if you discuss it eventually someone will ask "but how is it racist? he just wants quiet?" and you will feel so exhausted by the question you just let the whole thing go.
Flic
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myrmepropagandist
in reply to Flic • • •@Flisty @katzenberger
I haven't seen those ads. And for the record I love noise canceling headphones and earbuds.
Riding the subway without all the rumbles is amazing.
But, sometimes noise canceling can go too far. I often do a zoom call with my friend in Brooklyn to work on our writing. She has a lot of birds.
Zoom cuts out all of the birdsongs so I couldn't understand what she was talking about.
It also cuts out #picatheCat 's dynamic songs too. Robbing the world of her little voice.
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Flic
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Maybe this ad is only in Britain: I find the voice really grating as it's so AI (so many of them are now and they all really make me itch) and it's on relentlessly. I assumed that because it was AI it would be global in different accents/languages! Maybe it's just targeting that it's getting me so much ...!
jandi
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I don't use Zoom, but it seems you can turn it on and off:
"By default, Zoom uses noise suppression and echo cancellation to enhance the clarity of your microphone audio. You can adjust your professional audio settings during a Zoom Meeting to disable audio filters or enable higher-quality audio modes. From the meeting toolbar, you can access and configure your microphone modes and audio profiles."
Source: support.zoom.com/hc/en/article…
bovaz
in reply to Flic • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to bovaz • • •@bovaz @Flisty @katzenberger
ear plugs what ads?
is this what you are telling me this is???
that is a nightmare!
katzenberger
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Most of the German comments under the video are along the lines of "this is like every average Western European city today", etc.
The car enables you to say "get off my land" wherever you choose to. Even abroad. Utter denial and distortion of reality, but on wheels.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to katzenberger • • •"this is like every average Western European city today"
This is what real cities have always been since the dawn of time and if you don't like it? You don't really like cities ... or civilization.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@katzenberger
Cities are the place where you encounter people who are different from yourself. You can learn from them, fall in love with them, trade with them and become fabulously wealthy. That's the whole point of the city.
It's a place for everyone who likes the idea of a place for everyone.
Tom
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •These people live in a seperate community that is geographical congruent with your world but not part of it. They do not want to interact at all with the city and its people & don't care what happens there.
They cannot fly or use private tunnels yet, so their cars have to pass through your world & are therefore built to avoid any interactions. They dream of buying totally seperate spaces to get around, then they could ignore you entirely.
iwein
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I really like to shield myself from other humans, so I get that part, but I don't like to kill them. For shopping a cargo bike, sunglasses and hearing protection are fine. But for the transport of tools and family I like something bigger.
The funky thing is that it's virtually impossible to buy a vehicle that's doing what I want that isn't also designed to murder humans.
Why do even electric vehicles have the 'FU just die' fronts??
I blame the ads of the evil oligarchs for this.
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myrmepropagandist
in reply to iwein • • •@iwein
Too many of the people who might want more reasonable vehicles have just opted out of having one at all. Carmakers don't care what someone like me thinks about their cars as I will never buy one.
If I had to I expect it would be a very annoying process.
iwein
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I didn't want to put that rant on your timeline, but I'm that person, and you're absolutely right.
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iwein (@iwein@mas.to)
iwein (mas.to)ShadSterling
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ShadSterling
in reply to ShadSterling • • •I’ve got an 11-year-old sedan, and even that is bigger than I need. I’m hoping it’ll last until I pay off my student loans, and I’m not looking forward to what my options will be at that time. Especially if I’m lucky enough to have kids by then. I miss when they made cars that were just reasonable ways to get places, especially ones like our old station wagon
Cassandrich
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •iwein
in reply to Cassandrich • • •@dalias yup that's exactly what I meant with the "ads of the evil oligarchs" remark. You worded it much better 👍
There's absolutely no rational science based reason why cars couldn't be at least half as bulky and five times more energy efficient on average.
The murderous and planet destroying intent behind it all is as obvious as it is disgusting.
I wish I could shake that into buyers so they'd at least go: "WTF is this!?" Instead of: "oooh nice car 🤤"
@futurebird
Raven667
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Jer 🚵🏼 (TechHub)mau
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I've thought about this a lot since I got here.
Everyone is going around in private rooms that turn the people around you into obstacles in your way and reduce most daily interactions to a beep meaning "out of my way!", as opposed to "good morning, excuse me, may I?" in public transport.
Of course people feel isolated and lonely.
Flic
in reply to mau • • •amazingly the people at this car company were so car-brained that they filmed this whole ad without realising that they were saying exactly that.
@futurebird
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Flic • • •@Flisty @mzedp
Wow take the cars out of the car ad and I start to consider liking it a little. This is such a fun concept for a short.
llewelly
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I was shopping for a new work truck, and I ended up buying a used Ford Ranger because the new Rangers and all the other trucks are too big.
I can't understand the attraction to those monstrosities
bewilderbeast23
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •yeah, there's a reason these.things.don't sell in the #EU:
They are overweight, oversized shitboxes that don't qualify as a #truck in #Germany due to having less cargo capacity than people, routinely exceed 3,5t MGW so they ain't even legally driveable on a Class B (car driving license) and are just inefficient in every metric:
I really struggle to find a use-case for said #SuperUselessVehicles!
Paul Chambers🚧
in reply to Kevin Karhan • • •The Super Duty was designed for heavier payloads and towing capabilities and usually used by businesses here, like pulling construction equipment and farming, but many people get them for vanity and personal compensation, if you know what I mean. Starting at around $50,000 USD, that a steep price for physical compensation.
@futurebird
Kevin Karhan
in reply to Paul Chambers🚧 • • •Paul Chambers🚧
in reply to Kevin Karhan • • •@kkarhan Yeah, they shouldn't be "family cars" or personal vehicles.
Special use vehicles, imo, regardless where they are, for most cases. @futurebird