@benroyce It’s so funny how quick libs try out the whole “reverse racism” card when they already had the permission to be huge transphobes
good luck oomfs in the usa, i don’t envy you
RE: mastodon.social/@benroyce/1150…
@woof @RegGuy @dangerdykewow what a really neat topic change to stupidity there my friend
are you avoiding my point because you know i am right and are too much of a stubborn loser to admit it?
or do you just like randomly changing the topic to latinos and black people in garbage because you decided to randomly projecting your own off topic racist thoughts, you pathetic shitbag
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in reply to Neodog with Glasses Plushie • • •It’s in part one reason I see most US leftists/anarchists no longer gunning for politeness or “big tent” politics. When both parties say “we will kill you”, you organize outside of politics.
For those of us in the rest of the world, the challenge is to prevent this attitude from spilling into our countries (and to open our borders to US refugees)
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Unknown parent • • •you're replying to a canadian and a french
we know what we're talking about
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Unknown parent • • •@GottaLaff @RegGuy @tauon @eris @bl00d @OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat I mean, you can fight against it by making it clear that you're in disagreement with racism and transphobia, but you can't "win". there is no defeating it, there is only disapproving of it.
I mean. you didn't say "its not possible", but "there will be racism and transphobia forever" kind of implies that it will always be here. that's what im saying.
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Unknown parent • • •azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •ngl youre kinda a puritan about “vote blue no matter who”, yknow that?
like someone whos not a puritan about either “vote blue” or “dont vote” isnt gonna be yelling at people they think wouldnt vote
theyre just gonna go off, doing their own thing, looking for ways to make things a little better.
[and thats like, most entities in this thread, tbh.]
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in reply to Natalie • • •r o w . ᚂ
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in reply to Natalie • • •azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •also you just kinda ignored my thing about “i still feel like the kindness is fake”.
azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •@exmotoh @GottaLaff @winter @fujoshi @Li
bro, we already got trump, and youre too in denial about it to think for a second about what im actually saying.
if you wait 3 years to do something, it will already be over.
we have moved from “we gotta voot” to “what do you do once youre already living in a fascist regime?”
i still maintain that youre a puritan, because youre harassing people over the mere Idea that they would not “vote blue”.
but its being a puritan about something that barely even matters anymore.
what the fuck, yknow?
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in reply to Natalie • • •azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •@exmotoh @GottaLaff @winter @fujoshi @Li
another deflection.
…you know everyone in this thread has been doing the same, right? just being them, saying what they say in support of their own rights.
all i can say is, i hope someday you are fully exposed to the world as it is, with nothing to pretend anymore. [this is a wish of great harm.]
can your “being me” survive even with no societal structures putting it over others?
azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •theyre not even saying “both sides the same” lmao
theyre saying “would you vote for someone that was going to kill you personally, if itd be ‘better’ for other people, and other people are pressuring you to just accept it because they dont give a shit about you and never did”
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t @OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat tbh i think .social doesn’t really moderate as much as it (unintentionally) ensures cis people won’t see transfeminists or “weird” trans women like furries or whatevs unless they know where to look. it’s a very subtle nudge–you can follow TLA or Xenofem all you want, but if you just follow recommendations and popular accounts, you are certain to hear the “voice of the trans community” or the “voice of POC” from a very few select people who work in tech and never reclaim slurs or challenge mainstream USian worldviews.
I didn’t run the numbers but .social muting me when i talked shit to a male hasn’t changed at all my visibility from that instance: viral posts escape the queer spheres, normal posts stay safely outside the purview of techies
azalea 🌸
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anyway im voting for the Kill Ben Royce And All His Friends Specifically party, who wants to join me 😀
azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •@exmotoh @GottaLaff @winter @fujoshi @Li nonono, in reality theres the Kill Everyone Including Ben Royce party, and the Kill Ben Royce party [or at least, a party running the Kill Ben Royce candidate, who will indeed go out and kill ben royce as his first action in office]
you dont get another option 😀
azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •how does that make you feel?
azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •@exmotoh @GottaLaff @winter @fujoshi @Li
ok, cool.
mr Kill Ben Royce gets elected, and kills you (and your friends).
his whole party that is not like that just sort of sit and watch.
at least you… picked a way???
idk, do you like being dead?
azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •@Li @exmotoh @GottaLaff @winter @fujoshi
newsom is not better.
youre- god fucking dammit, youre treating “the dems” as a team again.
fuck off
azalea 🌸
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azalea 🌸
Unknown parent • • •@exmotoh @GottaLaff @winter @fujoshi @Li
…i was right about the kindness being fake. (of course i was.)
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Unknown parent • • •🌸 lily 🏳️⚧️ θΔ ⋐ & ∞
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in reply to r o w . ᚂ • • •@rowb1t @tauon
this is the kinda benevolent guy who'd put all the trannies a mental institution "for our own good". what allyship.
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Unknown parent • • •@miqokin @OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @estelle @tauon @rowb1t So, what message have you sent to people in your country about “Big Tent” politics today?
Trans men and trans women told you to stop being a fascist and educate yourself.
You have five thousand followers on Mastodon, who are seeing your crashout, calling dozens of trans people “sacks of shit”.
Not a single of your followers has come to your defense, despite their clients showing them your replies. None. Trans or cisgender.
Abi
Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
lets keep this civil, and no name calling, please.
you say you know better than us about what's good for our rights. that you don't need to listen to trans people about our needs. so whats the difference between you and the "benevolent ally" i described?
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Unknown parent • • •@miqokin @YKantRachelRead @estelle @tauon @OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @rowb1t It’s incredible how the guy wants “entertainment” when he starts with “HEY I IDENTIFY AS AN ALLY now vote for the guy who said transitioning under 25 should not happen”.
Liberals have zero convictions whatsoever - in addition of having no friends among what they imagine themselves the ally of.
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Unknown parent • • •Neodog with Glasses Plushie
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Unknown parent • • •Abi
Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
so you agree, an actual ally needs to listen to trans people instead of deciding for them what is in their best interests?
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t @letsbekind2 You have specifically said that here to a trans woman: mastodon.social/@benroyce/1150…
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2025-08-26 17:47:25
Abi
Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
why are yoyou avoiding the question? a simple "yes, i agree that allies need to listen to trans people" would suffice.
r o w . ᚂ
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Unknown parent • • •Abi
Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
i apologize if my characterization was untrue. but i asked you a really easy question and yet you seem to have trouble answering in the affirmative. this makes me suspicious that maybe i hit closer to home than you would like to think.
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
so thats a no, then? guess i was correct "out of the gate", as you say.
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t @letsbekind2 you’re too afraid to say in front of trans people that you’re supporting Gavin Newsom, who says that transition should no longer be available to us?
erininthemorning.com/p/why-tra…
Why Transgender People Are Not Feeling Gavin Newsom
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
you've rejected what trans people have to say dozens of times in this thread and insulted them, claiming that *you* speak for trans rights while they lack intelligence. that is not what a good ally does.
that is where my remark came from. now in that context, can you really fault me for coming to the conclusion you are a false ally!
mastodon.social/@benroyce/1150…
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
you *claim* that you are not a transphobe, but i don't see it. all i see is you attacking trans people who supposedly deserve it.
and you still haven't agreed that allies should listen to trans people about trans issues. if i call myself an ally, i don't make it conditional on how politely people treat me. this shouldn't be so hard for you to answer.
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Unknown parent • • •Natalie
in reply to Neodog with Glasses Plushie • • •Radio Free Trumpistan
in reply to Neodog with Glasses Plushie • •Everybody who kneejerk uses the term "libs" is automatically a shithole right out of the gate.
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
you condition people's rights based on whether or not you think they're "morons". this is exactly the sort of thing that makes me think you'd send trans people to camps for our own good. all you need to do is start with "the morons" (aka ableist eugenics), the fascism is self-perpetuating after that.
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in reply to antimagic heart-sickness • •I second that, antimagic.
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in reply to Neodog with Glasses Plushie • • •oh it's *that* guy
always know, if someone is loudly pro Ukraine but says nothing about Palestine you've got someone just as bad as the Russia supporters on your hands
unsurprisingly I got in a fight with that specific liberal before btw
Abi
Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
where's the lie? you seem extremely quick to write off voices who disagree with you as "morons". perhaps you should look up the history of that word.
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in reply to ra1n • •ra1n, you're pretending that those scourges will never go away so we might as well get used to bigotry. Well, not only NO but HELL NO. Do nothing and they fester like cancer. It's best removed even if it does come back. It'll get removed again and again and again and again and...
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in reply to r o w . ᚂ • •That's not on this planet, row. What planet are you from?
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in reply to Natalie • •Bigots of any sort aren't welcome here, so you might as well get back into your fortified compound, Nat.
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in reply to Natalie • •MAGAts wouldn't exist if they couldn't scream at some concocted enemy. That's their whole reason for being.
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
so i have you down for:
1. disagree that allies should listen to trans ppl about trans issues
2. embracing the language of eugenicists.
why would anyone be polite to someone like that?
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in reply to Abi • •Impolite bigots don't deserve polite treatment.
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that's right
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Unknown parent • • •I literally argued with you about it, around the start of the genocide and the US election
anyway, go away I don't care, don't talk to me, bye
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in reply to Natalie • •Natalie, that's the first thing you said that I agree with.
When they win something, they are self-compelled to invent another enemy to fight against, even when it's a compatriot they'll later claim isn't compatriot enough. It's always something with those nimnuls.
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in reply to Neodog with Glasses Plushie • • •issfine I blocked him don't worry about it
I've dealt with many a liberal in my day
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in reply to Natalie • •When you make statements like that about people you don't know, it makes you a liar.
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
i'm not going to "foist" it on you - wikipedia is right there. you think its fine and good to use a slur that has historically been used against queer and neurodivergent people to incarcerate them "for their own good" and yet still call what i've said a smear and not truth.
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in reply to Natalie • • •Natalie
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in reply to Clover • •Blocked "liberals"? Rather people you declared to be "liberals" whether they are or not. Mark of a MAGAt.
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in reply to Natalie • •Your definition of "liberalism" doesn't fit anybody who doesn't follow any kind of "ism", kid.
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in reply to Natalie • •You don't know me from Eve let alone what systems I may or may not be propping up. That's the mark of a bigot, the very definition of the word "prejudice"--jumping to judgment without any facts to go on.
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in reply to Natalie • •Sez you. Both major parties are pro genocide and failing to vote at all is not an option. Try again, born-yesterday.
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in reply to Radio Free Trumpistan • • •Natalie
in reply to Natalie • • •Radio Free Trumpistan
in reply to Natalie • •I know your words, hon. Your words are the words of a bigot.
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in reply to Natalie • • •Natalie
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Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
"oh i can't use this slur? what other slur should i use instead?" is not convincing me you care about queer or neurodivergent people. go educate yourself before you claim to be an ally of any sort.
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in reply to Natalie • •Don't call me a lib, you pig-fucking asswipe.
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in reply to Radio Free Trumpistan • • •Abi
Unknown parent • • •@tauon @rowb1t
if you'd done the reading you'd know the importance of this. but you'd rather call people slurs than learn anything. you are not an ally.
Clover
in reply to Clover • • •@claralistensprechen5th also assuming I'm MAGA is a very "if you're not with me you support my enemy" America-centric view of things
I think the difference between you and a trump supporter is barely worth mentioning, death to America, I hope the destruction of the US empire comes swiftly and decisively
may we see something less horrid sprout from the ashes
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in reply to Clover • •Ya, you're wrong alright. Dead wrong. The sooner I see Trump and his ilk move out of the country to Russia, the better I'll like it, but it's clear that you're not familiar with the difference between MAGAts and the rest of America, which happen to be families originating in non-American countries. Canada and Hungary in my case, so suck it up, buttercup. Most Americans aren't MAGA and they're the ones who actually build the country you want to die, which makes you anti- the people who are from your own country of familial origin. America is made one, of many. Deal with it.
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Unknown parent • •Suit yourself. When you want America to die you want Afghans and Iraquis and Irish and Marshalese and Hatians and national Jews and Mexicans and El Salvadorans and Cubans and and and and to die just because they moved to America. There's a special place in hell for morons like you.
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in reply to Neodog with Glasses Plushie • •Ya, anybody who wants America to die wants death for all the Afghans, Arabians, Tunisians, Egyptians, Iraqis, Mexicans, Colombians, El Salvadorans, Argentinians, Canadians, Slovaks, Iranians, Ukrainians, and want Palestinians to die just because they moved to America. Anybody who didn't vote for genocidal Democrats ensured the election of the genocidal Republicans. Death to America means death to your country too, because people from there live in America too. Deal with it.
E Pluribus Unum.
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in reply to Radio Free Trumpistan • • •@claralistensprechen5th
First of all, Trump's American, why send him to Russia? just y'know, prosecute/execute him where he stands
and the average American is pretty racist, I'm very familiar with this fact
and most of them support American imperialism and the destruction and exploitation of the global south to maintain the hegemony and empire they benefit from
and just so you're aware saying "death to America" is about wishing for the destruction of US empire, but I shouldn't expect a liberal to know that, I suppose.
it is not about wishing harm on the average person, but about wishing for the destruction of the system
it's like when you say that Russia should be destroyed, you're probably not talking about the average poor Russian that's struggling financially and can barely afford to keep a roof over their head
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in reply to Radio Free Trumpistan • • •@claralistensprechen5th read books
just in general
but also like, any flavor of leftist theory, y'know, anything about imperialism, Micheal parrenti's got a few good ones
just read whatever really
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Unknown parent • • •antimagic heart-sickness
Unknown parent • • •@lispi314 @exmotoh @GottaLaff @winter @fujoshi @Li @azalea https://en.wikipedia.o...
Moron is a term once used in psychology and psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability.[1] The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement.[2] Once the term became popularized, it
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Moron is a term once used in psychology and psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability.[1] The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement.[2] Once the term became popularized, it fell out of use by the psychological community, as it was used more commonly as an insult than as a psychological term. It is similar to imbecile and idiot.
[3]Origin and uses
"Moron" was coined in 1910 by psychologist Henry H. Goddard[4] from the Ancient Greek word μωρός (moros), which meant "dull"[5] and used to describe a person with a mental age in adulthood of between 7 and 10 on the Binet scale.[6] It was once applied to people with an intelligence quotient (IQ) of 51–70, being superior in one degree to "imbecile" (IQ of 26–50) and superior in two degrees to "idiot" (IQ of 0–25). The word moron, along with others including "idiotic", "imbecilic", "stupid", and "feeble-minded", was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists.
[7]In the obsolete medical classification (ICD-9, 1977), morons and feeble-minded persons were said to have "mild mental retardation", "mild mental subnormality" or "high-grade defect" with IQ in the range 50–70.[8]
term once used in psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)antimagic heart-sickness
Unknown parent • • •@GottaLaff @Li @azalea @exmotoh @lispi314 @winter a person can be retarded and kind, helpful and understanding of right and wrong
i'm sure you are very intelligent, Mr. Benjamin Smartman Royce
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Unknown parent • • •@exmotoh @GottaLaff @winter @Li @lispi314 @azalea
> "i am completely aware of all that"
> in response to someone posting the wiki article about the word "moron" as a eugenics thing
> in the context of calling people morons to insult them
and that's the mask off folks
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Unknown parent • • •dykebot_3000
in reply to Radio Free Trumpistan • • •Radio Free Trumpistan
in reply to dykebot_3000 • •Herr Champion of Loaded Questions, when did you stop beating your wife?
dykebot_3000
in reply to Radio Free Trumpistan • • •Radio Free Trumpistan
in reply to dykebot_3000 • •Misgenering is not possible when you don't announce. Misgendering fault is yours. Further, any LGBTQ+ person who identifies with any anti-LGBTQ+ party is a masochist who has no legit problem with misgendering whatsoever. You haven't mentioned just how silenced the Log Cabin Republicans have been under the current regime. Hypocrite much?
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in reply to Radio Free Trumpistan • • •Radio Free Trumpistan
in reply to dykebot_3000 • •Looks like I nailed you fair and square. Anybody else who is literate in the English language doesn't have a problem with what I'm talking about.
Gotcha, poser.
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