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⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

Mastodon.cloud no longer seems to be moderated. Its admin account hasn't posted since Feb 2023, its code of conduct is blank and there are vile racists posting from there. The racists have been reported many times but their accounts are still active.

Because of this, other server admins are starting to block mastodon.cloud completely.

If you're on mastodon.cloud you might want to move to another server ASAP: fedi.tips/transferring-your-ma…

in reply to Fedi.Tips

No need for me to worry about that since I already migrated a long time ago!
in reply to Fedi.Tips

hey @OpenForumEurope you may want to move off Mastodon.cloud

It's not going to be a good look remaining on an unmoderated server.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

according to this article (the contact email there is for sujitech) the instance is run by the same people as at least Pawoo, mstdn.jp. The company still seems active...

masknetwork.medium.com/why-we-…

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in reply to ikuturso

@ikuturso

Either they aren't moderating, or they are allowing really awful stuff to be hosted.

Either way, it's not a good idea to be on such an instance.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

Extreme racism, n-word

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

p.p.s. A lot of legitimate non-problematic accounts joined mastodon.cloud when it was still moderated. I'm guessing most of the ones still on there are there because they don't realise what has happened.

If you know someone still on mastodon.cloud, you might want to politely let them know what the situation is and suggest they move. I'm sure most will be horrified about what's happening and keen to move to a different server. If they need help moving, the guide is at fedi.tips/transferring-your-ma…

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

Can sympathize, m.c was my first home on the fedi because I didn't know the lay of the land, as it were, and it had open registration. I used the account less and less and eventually deleted it a couple years back, but good neighbors can definitely join bad instances out of sheer ignorance and stay because the face-eating leopard hasn't eaten their faces (yet).
in reply to Fedi.Tips

Is it possible to search?

newsie.social/relationships

Full Mastodon addresses aren't completely viewable

in reply to psuPete

@psuPete

As far as I know you can't search your follows/followers list, sorry 😔

in reply to Fedi.Tips

@psuPete might be possible if you export your follower list as CSV (in Mastodon, it's in the Preferences under "Export") and then inspect the CSV with a text editor or spreadsheet application
in reply to Fedi.Tips

Is there a way to search (easily 😬 ) my follows and followers for their respective instances?
in reply to Fedi.Tips

thanks for this post and associated tips. Have thought about moving server before but this post pushed me to act. Thank you.
in reply to Kev

@edgeofstretch

Thanks for taking the time to write these kind words, it's really motivating to hear these posts are useful!

Good luck on the new server 🙂

@Kev
in reply to Fedi.Tips

p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at fedi.tips/transferring-your-ma…

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

Cupoftea.social will happily take anyone in need of a well looked after and up to date instance.
in reply to Fedi.Tips

Thing that gets me, is hosting's quite the little chunk of change, to be all "Ho-hum, was I running a server somewhere?"

So possibly - working as intended? *shrug*

in reply to Anhedonic Hedonist

@AnhedonicHedonist

Yeah, that leads into a weird tale about money:

social.chinwag.org/@FediThing/…

Does make one wonder where the money is coming from and why they seemed to disappear after making a super-large donation.

And even if they couldn't be bothered to moderate, why would they stop updating the software? There are plenty of hosts who will do updates automatically for a small monthly fee.

None of it makes sense.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

Not quite as out of date as it might appear, but still not good by any means. mastodon.cloud reports running 4.1.25 which is the last (not latest; last) 4.1.x series release, from 2025-04-02. github.com/mastodon/mastodon/r… So going by that, it must have been updated at some point within the last 4 ½ months.
in reply to mkj

Thanks for the digging. If they are still updating makes it very odd that they stopped there, as the Masto developers specifically warn about no security patches to that branch since April 2025.

(And why are they on such an old branch anyway? And if they're updating why aren't they moderating?)

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

just moved from there to another server, following your instructions (which I found very clear and easy to follow).
in reply to Ken Butler

@nxskok

That's really great to hear, and thanks very much for the feedback 🙏

in reply to Fedi.Tips

true federation will exist when migration will be possible in 3 clicks
in reply to Fedi.Tips

not sure the best place to report this, it looks the moving from/to settings are now under Account. I used your guide yesterday to change instances, it was very helpful!
in reply to Chuck Durfee

@neontapir

Fine to report errors anywhere, thanks for taking the time! 👍

Which step(s) of the guide are you referring to?

in reply to Fedi.Tips

steps 7 and 10. It looks like Account isn’t under Preferences any more, it’s now a top level item.
in reply to Chuck Durfee

How are you getting to "Account" without clicking "Preferences"? (Genuine question!)
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in reply to Fedi.Tips

oh, I see, my mistake. When I click Preferences on the main page, I see an item on the left labeled Preferences, and I was expecting Account to be under that. Truth is, time had passed since I’d navigated to the Preferences page, so I forgot that’s how I got there. Nothing to see here. 😀
in reply to Chuck Durfee

@neontapir

Aaah, yeah, I see what you mean!

It is sort of confusing that there's a main "Preferences" option in the general interface but then also a "preferences" section on the Preferences page.

Maybe they should rename it "Settings" for one and "Preferences" for the other?

Thanks for this, it is really useful to hear how people see the interface from their point of view.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

Extreme racism, n-word
Thanks, I wondered why nothing happened after an R&B of that particular account.
I'm reluctant to block the instance at a personal level just yet.
in reply to Fedi.Tips

Oh... The same admin also runs pawoo.net, explains a lot
in reply to Fedi.Tips

they have a second account btw: @ CensorsAreCultists@submarin.online
in reply to Fedi.Tips

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

the best thing to do with those kind of account is to ignore them and not give them the attention. If you share this for everyone to see you are giving them the attention they want. But yeah unmoderated instance can be pretty bad.
in reply to Konakona

@Konakona @Fedi.Tips

I agree with the idea of not feeding trolls though, as an Instance admin if someone says an Instance needs to be blocked then I want evidence as to why. Blocking another Instance is not something I do lightly. So yes, feeding trolls is not a productive thing to do. Though if you call out an Instance as being unmoderated you kind of have to provide evidence if you expect to be taken seriously.

in reply to Konakona

@konakona

If you let people spread lies about vulnerable minorities, it leads to real world discrimination, violence and murder.

How does someone ignore it when people are physically attacking them in the street?

in reply to Fedi.Tips

my point was that if you are a popular account and share their post you are actually giving them a lot more exposure. Which will only make it worse. Its like free publicity. I don't think you had any bad intentions sharing it. I am just saying its probably not really the best thing to do but its good to point out unmoderated instances because those have bigger issues than racist trolls.
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in reply to Konakona

@konakona

If I don't give at least one example, some people will assume I'm exaggerating or overdoing it when saying it's racism. They'll say they've never seen anything like that and demand proof.

I tried to pick one example that was most clearly racist.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

fair enough. Though there are some of those so called "free speech" instances that allow such thing. But that one doesn't look like one of those. And yeah pretty suspicious they have no more rules or anything.
in reply to Fedi.Tips

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

⚠️ Mise en garde importante si vous êtes sur le serveur mastodon.cloud :

«Mastodon.cloud ne semble plus être modéré. Son compte administrateur n'a pas posté depuis février 2023, son code de conduite est vide et d'ignobles racistes y postent. Les racistes ont été signalés à plusieurs reprises, mais leurs comptes sont toujours actifs.

À cause de cela, d'autres administrateurs de serveurs commencent à bloquer complètement mastodon.cloud.»

Si vous êtes sur mastodon.cloud, vous devriez peut-être changer de serveur au plus vite : fedi.tips/transferring-your-ma…

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in reply to nadb 🐸

@0tracas
A noter que lorsqu'on migre son compte ainsi, on migre les comptes qu'on suit et ceux qui nous suivent, mais pas les posts eux-même.
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Please note that when you migrate your account in this way, you migrate the accounts you follow and those who follow you, but not the posts themselves.
in reply to Calaad

I read someone suggest you boost all your old posts to copy them over and retain them if the old server goes down, as a workaround. That sounds scriptable, so maybe someone has already made a script for that, I wonder?
in reply to Marcus

@marcusxms @calaad

That might or might not work depending on whether the server shutting down sends out a deletion command. Many of them do this to tidy away posts from accounts that no longer exist.

You can download a personal archive of your posts but there's currently no way to upload this onto Mastodon:

➡️ fedi.tips/how-to-download-your…

There may be other platforms that allow archive uploads in the future, Firefish experimented with this at one point.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

Alright, maybe instead one could quote share the posts on Friendica and then refer to that account on Mastodon, or possibly boost those quote shared posts. That is until Mastodon itself gains the quote share functionality. I would assume those would not be deleted by that operation?

Or perhaps in that case one may as well script reposting them all, losing the original timestamps but retaining the content, or reposting them inside a quote with a printed timestamp of the original post.

in reply to Marcus

@marcusxms @calaad

There are sites that let you display your Masto archive online as a website, you could refer to these on your new account?

Alternatively, a script could possibly repost the archive to your new account? But it would probably be rate-limited by the new server as someone posting potentially thousands of posts might overwhelm the server's resources.

(This was one of the problems on Firefish's experiment, it overwhelmed the server when the archive being uploaded was large.)

in reply to Fedi.Tips

kinda wish there was a "no longer federate newly created accounts from this instance" thing
in reply to Thibaultmol 🌈 🔜@WHY2025

@thibaultmol

Yeah. I'm posting because there are legitimate non-problematic accounts which joined mastodon.cloud while it was still moderated and don't realise what has happened since then. Hopefully they hear about this and move.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

@sclower FYI, you may wanna consider moving, if you've not read the original post, its the one this is replying to.
in reply to Thomas Tanghus

@tanghus Got any links to the racist stuff? I just looked at the TL and it’s filled with random junk like an unmoderated ghost ship usually is, but I hadn’t seen the vile stuff yet.

(Not asking because I doubt it’s there, just researching before I suspend a server.)

in reply to Tekniquelly correct

Vile racist account

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Vile racist account

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

@staff I guess (I hope 🤞) that you've seen this and have taken action? Thanks!
in reply to Fedi.Tips

Cupoftea.social always happy to get folks over to a better maintained and well ran instance here
in reply to Fedi.Tips

You know what to do @tyler . Though it could just be a honey pot
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in reply to Fedi.Tips

Looks like it's running an out of date version of Mastodon that stopped receiving updates in April too.
in reply to Fedi.Tips

@reflex I wrote a script to autoblock/silence unmaintained software versions during one of the spam waves: mastodon.scot/@gunchleoc/11197…
in reply to nicole mikołajczyk

If it's moderated, why is it allowing the worst kind of racial hatred even when it's been reported many times over a long period?
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in reply to Fedi.Tips

I didn't notice any racist accounts until this was pointed out. Seems I have something else to look at defederating then.
in reply to Fedi.Tips

I moved from there in 2020 because the people then running it had announced it'd shut down. They did end up finding someone to take over. 🤷‍♂️
in reply to Fedi.Tips

We have suspended them already

Rina
Admin @ tootworld.social

in reply to Fedi.Tips

@stux can you please defederate from mastodon.cloud? there’s some really vile stuff there
in reply to Fedi.Tips

If anyone's thinking about moving, I can recommend kind.social/
in reply to Fedi.Tips

thank you. I had no idea. I joined up there many years ago but never actually look at the local feed or anything
in reply to Fedi.Tips

we don't normally repost from this account, but in this case, as we're actively monitoring this we decided we'd post it, and yes, we are considering blocking mastodon.cloud if the situation doesn't improve.
in reply to Fedi.Tips

Collective punishment is unethical. Rule violations are best handled individually, not through broad blocks by association. Mastodon.cloud, despite lighter moderation, has remained open and interoperable for years—unlike other instances that block hundreds of millions of accounts hosted on popular services and eventually shut down.
in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

It's not collective punishment, don't be ridiculous. It's an individual's right and responsibility to choose an instance, and move instances if they don't like how it behaves.

You're infantilising Fedi members by claiming they have no agency or ability or alternatives.

Also, mastodon.cloud isn't even updating its own software any more, it's several updates behind the latest supported versions. This is not good for its members, it means security holes may not be fixed.

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

It has become routine for viral posts to rally a mob into blocking entire instances—thousands of accounts—over a few bad interactions. While this may feel empowering for in-groups or those with large followings, it fosters a toxic environment. In this case, a dependable, useful, and constructive instance is being demonized and ostracized.
in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

@Joseph Quattrocchi @Fedi.Tips

You really believe that an Instance that is several versions behind on support updates is dependable? You believe that people attempting to keep toxic content from being propagated are fostering a toxic environment? I am not understanding your motivations or reasoning here.

in reply to Unus Nemo

I'm motivated to defend an instance that has hosted my account for a couple of years allowing me to access the world wide public discourse by remaining open and interoperable. When other instances were blocking bridges to Threads, Bluesky, Twitter, and Nostr, this instance sought to build bridges. Brigading isn't punishing a negligent admin but all the users and undermining the viability of the protocol itself.
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in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

It's not a dependable instance. Its software isn't up to date, there may be bugs that put its users in danger.

The admin hasn't posted in 2.5 years, that is not a sign of dependability.

Quite often instances where the admin stops communicating for years may vanish without warning.

"Brigading isn't punishing a negligent admin "

It's not about punishing anyone, it's warning people that they are on an abandoned instance. Would you rather they weren't warned?

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in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

@quattrocchi It’s not «unethical», it is the best technical response to an unmanaged cesspool. Blocking individually is pointless against a server where nazis can just make a new account and keep posting.
in reply to Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

@toriver Most people on the service are regular social media users, but here this mob is demonizing the whole instance as a "cesspool" and executing a totalitarian cleansing of everyone on the service.
in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

@quattrocchi @toriver

Can you please stop using such ludicrous hyperbolic terms for what is just a server block on a federated network where people can move to different servers?

"executing a totalitarian cleansing"? Can you hear yourself? Are you serious or are you a troll?

Real life actual totalitarianism rises when lies about vulnerable groups are allowed to spread widely. Vulnerable groups get attacked and murdered in real life because of such lies: social.chinwag.org/@FediThing/…

in reply to Fedi.Tips

@toriver A healthier response is deescalation. When you punish whole groups including innocent users for transgressions by a few accounts, there is an escalation.
in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

@quattrocchi No, they are still there. Freedom of speech is not an entitlement to an audience, other servers see the unmanaged server as a problem and defederates from it, reducing its reach. Their house, their rules.
in reply to Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

@toriver Musk and his allies used that argument to rationalize the abuse of his employees and users. I disagree that anyone has the right to abuse other humans even in their house. Social disenfranchisement—cutting people off from public services—is abuse. Most on this platform did nothing wrong. A few bad interactions can’t justify punishing everyone.
in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

@quattrocchi A given Mastodon instance is a PRIVATE service, not a public one. Again, if they want to sit in their more and more isolated instance then that is fine, after all both Gab and Truth Social use Mastodon without federating with anyone. The rest of the Mastodon servers are not obliged to federate with them either. It’s not «abuse» in any form.
in reply to Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

@toriver A Mastodon instance is a PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION. There are laws around the world addressing common-carriers or gatekeeping regulation of digital platforms.
in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

@quattrocchi

No one is stopping anyone using mastodon.cloud.

All that is being suggested is people might want to move off it because it seems to be no longer maintained or moderated.

in reply to Joseph Quattrocchi

@Joseph Quattrocchi @Fedi.Tips

Collective punishment would be if I allowed an unmoderated and unmaintained Instance to propagate to my Instance. I really could not blame my users for being upset if I did not block an Instance that is openly allowing racist material to be propagated by their Instance.

I am not about the Cancel Culture. Though reasonable moderation has to be present on an Instance for me to accept that it should be propagated. If you check my Instances Block List you will realize I do not block Instance arbitrarily.

in reply to Fedi.Tips

feel free register at fedihub.space or fulda.social
in reply to Fedi.Tips

their contact email is info@sujitech.com and I’ve already sent them an email notifying them of the defederation risk. I suggest others do the same to get their attention.
in reply to Fedi.Tips

@Fedi.Tips

I do not block Instances lightly, though allowing racists posts cross a line I cannot accept. I have blocked maston.cloud on my Instance for now until I see that the Instance Admin starts moderating again.

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@volcano

Yes! There are simple non-technical step-by-step instructions here:

➡️ fedi.tips/transferring-your-ma…

If you want any help with this please ask 🙂