"There isn't any iceberg. There was an iceberg but it's in a totally different ocean. The iceberg is in this ocean but it will melt very soon. There is an iceberg but we didn't hit the iceberg. We hit the iceberg, but the damage will be repaired very shortly. The iceberg is a Chinese iceberg. We are taking on water but every passenger who wants a lifeboat can get a lifeboat, and they are beautiful lifeboats. Look, passengers need to ask nicely for the lifeboats if they want them. We don't have any lifeboats, we're not lifeboat distributors. Passengers should have planned for icebergs and brought their own lifeboats. I really don't think we need that many lifeboats. We have lifeboats and they're supposed to be our lifeboats, not the passengers' lifeboats. The lifeboats were left on shore by the last captain of this ship. Nobody could have foreseen the iceberg."
I wonder how large (or small) the Venn diagram is for folks (1) smart enough to navigate the shoals and set up a Mastodon account and (2) uh, .... not smart enough to recognize this as an absolute scam. 🤔
That smarmy tone, and "you'll receive payment" , like, d'uh. I live in Norway, and our tone is pretty matter-of-fact, not exactly gushing, but does *anybody* *anywhere* actually communicate like that ?
p.s. Another couple of scams to watch out for as well:
- Scammers saying you need to verify by clicking on a link. Admins will NEVER demand you verify. The verification system on Mastodon is optional and does not involve credit cards or any kind of payment.
- Scammers saying you need to temporarily change your account's email address. Admins will NEVER do this. This is done by scammers who want to take over your account, which is possible if you change your email to match theirs.
I had 3 come up today, all different userids. They each cam up each time I made a post to programming.dev/c/dotnetmaui, replying to it from Mastodon, but not when I posted to different Communities, so they're not following me per se, but some combination in there triggered them each time, but a different bot each time, as I said
The email one ought to be bloody obvious. If someone is asking you to change an email address to one that isn't yours, they are going to use that email to gain access to your stuff.
The rewards one, not so much, unless you know that Mastodon admins can barely afford to keep their server running. You'd have a better chance buying shares in mr. St. Claus' toy factory on the North Pole.
They use it to post the other scams that steal credit cards etc, and because they come from a trustworthy account people are more likely to fall for them.
How can they enforce this #os #ageverification bullshit? Sure, #apple, #google, and #microslop have the infrastructure to ID everyone, and maybe even #fedora and #ubuntu, but what about #Linux distros run by a small team or one person? What if I compile my own #lfs kernel? What if I write my own OS with blackjack and hookers? Will it soon become illegal to run #Linux or #BSD? I need to start downloading the entire #debian repository before it's too late...
I grabbed myself a rather complete copy of Debian 13.0 around when it was released. Full source and amd64 binary and source DVD sets, plus binary DVD 1 for arm64, armhf, ppc64el, riscv64 and s390x. All verified against the official hashes, and those lists in turn verified against the distribution-key signatures, so they trace back to something I already trusted. Not sure I'll ever have any use for the non-amd64 binary DVDs, but figured might be handy. Adds up to about 263 GB. 🙂
From what I have read. This only applies to OS distributors and it is on them not you. In the case of Linux the Age Signal could just be your age stored in the /etc/passwd file, and of course it is just based on your word. In any case the Onus is on the distro provider not you to have the first time age verification. This would also not apply to you downloading your own Linux From Scratch (LFS) and building it yourself Unless you were distributing that OS then it does not apply. So Gentoo could probably skate under that line or maybe not? But building it yourself and using it yourself means no age verification because these laws only apply to those distributing an OS not those Using one. The current legislation says nothing about having to age verify on an OS you build yourself.
Note: I am not a lawyer and I am not giving legal advice, just my opinion of what I have read.
In America we are taxed when we get our money, when we spend our money, when we save our money (the interest is not tax free), taxed on our land, registration of our vehicles ... The only way to avoid taxes is to become rich, then you become tax exempt.
Lisa Simpson presenting a lecture, standing on stage and speaking to her audience. Her slide says, "If businesses only have to pay taxes on profit, not revenue, then I should only have to pay taxes after I've paid all my bills and rent."
yes, this idea is called "small business". Some people actually (but then, at least in EU, you soon qualify for VAT, which makes your products and services more expensive to everyone not paying VAT)
that's mostly BS. A rich person could run up fabulous bills for private airplanes, yachts, personal whatevers, his business, and never pay taxes at all. That's pretty much what already happens
It makes sense. To me, corporate taxes should be considered as the contribution of the services businesses take advantage of, just as any other services they pay for.
Not so long ago I updated the Rogue Project's Friendica Instance to the latest version. Other than a few tweaks and aggravations it went rather smoothly. Friendica has a habit of breaking. There are many issues under the hood that need attention. I unfortunately do not have the time I wish I did to fix a lot of these issues. Though most of them are just nuance and do not stop the show. I have a script on my VPS that checks every 5 minutes to see if all the services that Friendica needs are still running. If not it starts them. Recently, since the upgrade, My php-fpm kept dying. I checked the logs and it was due to OOM-Killer, which is a task that kills processes that threaten to shutdown the system due to trying to use to much memory. Okay, so I know the symptom, now what is the problem? It turns out that with the new version of Friendica the way the worker.php has been changed can lead to this issue. So I added constrain
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Not so long ago I updated the Rogue Project's Friendica Instance to the latest version. Other than a few tweaks and aggravations it went rather smoothly. Friendica has a habit of breaking. There are many issues under the hood that need attention. I unfortunately do not have the time I wish I did to fix a lot of these issues. Though most of them are just nuance and do not stop the show. I have a script on my VPS that checks every 5 minutes to see if all the services that Friendica needs are still running. If not it starts them. Recently, since the upgrade, My php-fpm kept dying. I checked the logs and it was due to OOM-Killer, which is a task that kills processes that threaten to shutdown the system due to trying to use to much memory. Okay, so I know the symptom, now what is the problem? It turns out that with the new version of Friendica the way the worker.php has been changed can lead to this issue. So I added constraints to the configuration to eliminate this. Then I found out I had a poison pill in my database. A transaction that just kept causing the worker to use up all the memory and trigger a OOM error. So I cleared the queue and hopefully now all is well on the Instance, until the next issue of course.
Okay, this is the rant part. I am going to be honest and very candid. I usually prefer tact but I am more than just a little irate. When I decided to join the Fediverse I tried Mastodon, did not like it and did not expect to. I hate micro blogging environments which is why I was never on Twitter or X. I discovered Friendica and I loved it. I decided to start my own Instance and I decided to support the community of the greater Fediverse and open my Instance to the general public.
It seems as though some users do not understand that Fediverse Instance are not corporate owned (well most of them anyway). Myself and hundreds of thousands of other admins setup, maintain and support these individual Instance on the Fediverse. Every Instance is typically owned and operated by one person or a very small team. Rogue Project's Friendica is owned and operated by me, myself and I. I get zero contributions of any kind from anyone. My time and finances exclusively keep this Instance up and available for the 80+ users (yes we are a small Instance) that are on the Instance.
Spending hours fixing an Instance, when I actually do not even use Social Media that much is frustrating enough. To see that my work and financial contribution is not even appreciated really makes me ask myself "why am I doing this?" Why not just re-purpose the VPS to something more useful to me and move on? Then I calm down, everything is fixed and I move on. No, I will not be shutting down Rogue Project's Friendica anytime soon. As I do still have plenty of users that are not whining and complaining. That do apparently appreciate my effort. So I will continue to put out fires, and pay the bills. I just wish more users on the Fediverse would appreciate the work and financial sacrifices that the Owners and Administrators of their Instance contribute so they can have an Instance to be a part of the Fediverse. Rant Over!
If any other Friendica Instance Admin has an issue with OOM error on their Instance since the upgrade please feel free to contact me and I will be glad to help you out.
I am not a fan of MicroSoft, I think most people would be aware of that. I have recently been required to use VSCode for some of my work and I admit it is not entirely unpleasant. I still prefer vim and no vim mode is not good enough 😉 though it does make it vastly more usable.
After an arm wrestling match, that I finally won, I have VS Code configured for my work environment. I use Fedora 43 Workstation for my daily driver and getting VS Code to co-operate with my default configuration for the terminal was a bit of a nuisance. There must be more than a million settings in this beast! 😉
I am doing a technical review on a video course on the Go programming language. The creator uses MS/VSCode in the course so it was necessary for me to use that for the review. So far I am not upset with the editor but it is unnatural for me so I had to adapt.
One of the things that bothered me was that when using the shell via VSCode's integrated terminal was that I lost all of my normal shell env that I have taken a lot of time historically setting up. This was not acceptable. So I did a deep dive and found that VSCode runs one instance of the shell for itself and then creates a subshell for it's integrated terminals. I have shields in my configuration that prevent it from being sourced multiple times which can lead to bloat and an environment with a path that has the same directories in it multiple times. So VSCode's approach stopped the integrated terminals from being able to source
I am doing a technical review on a video course on the Go programming language. The creator uses MS/VSCode in the course so it was necessary for me to use that for the review. So far I am not upset with the editor but it is unnatural for me so I had to adapt.
One of the things that bothered me was that when using the shell via VSCode's integrated terminal was that I lost all of my normal shell env that I have taken a lot of time historically setting up. This was not acceptable. So I did a deep dive and found that VSCode runs one instance of the shell for itself and then creates a subshell for it's integrated terminals. I have shields in my configuration that prevent it from being sourced multiple times which can lead to bloat and an environment with a path that has the same directories in it multiple times. So VSCode's approach stopped the integrated terminals from being able to source my configuration so my desired env was not available in VSCode's integrated terminal. I found a toggle that allowed me to turn that feature off so that my env was sourced in the integrated terminals.
Now this may be a small detail to some. Though I do 90% of my work in the terminal and not having access to my normal env was not pleasant at all. It basically made using the integrated terminals painful and unproductive. I was pretty excited to see Nemo Dragon rear his head in the integrated terminal as it showed my env was indeed being sourced! 😉
The only negative part of using MS/VSCode is the feeling that MS is watching, lol, of course I have a copy of VSCode built from sources so I know that is not possible in my case. As I would have seen the code on inspection and I would see evidence of the telemetry on my network.
Would you install a stock version of VSCode and see if you get any telemetry? I would appreciate it if you could do that test for me. Do not use a copy distributed by a third party such as they have in the Fedora repo, get the version distributed directly from MS. I know you will do a very thorough investigation 😀. I have faith in your paranoia 😛
I do not think I will ever be done pimping up my OS after 30+ years I am still working on it 😛. I do not think we outgrow that. When we leave the confines of MS/Windows (In my case MS/DOS) or MacOS behind and we are given the freedom to make our computer truly our own. It is hard to not take advantage of that opportunity.
your image is not visible to me, please check the permissions as there is still an issue with that on this new version of friendica. Sometimes I post an image and it honors my default permissions and makes it public, other times it makes it visible to only me.
It is a common mistake to believe that shell script is a bash script, zsh script or sh script. Essentially the langue your shell provides. This is not reality. A shell script can be written in many languages. To explain try this:
it still executes despite not having a shebang line. As we have demonstrated. In fact if you are creating shell scripts in the bash language (versus the bash shell) and using bash then you do not need a shebang line. This is the default scripting language for the bash shell.
So why do we have a shebang line in the first place? It does not make the file executable, that is what chmod +x does. The shebang line tells us what interpreter to use for this script. That language could be bash, python,
It is a common mistake to believe that shell script is a bash script, zsh script or sh script. Essentially the langue your shell provides. This is not reality. A shell script can be written in many languages. To explain try this:
it still executes despite not having a shebang line. As we have demonstrated. In fact if you are creating shell scripts in the bash language (versus the bash shell) and using bash then you do not need a shebang line. This is the default scripting language for the bash shell.
So why do we have a shebang line in the first place? It does not make the file executable, that is what chmod +x does. The shebang line tells us what interpreter to use for this script. That language could be bash, python, perl, tcl, gambas, pascal, ... it does not matter. They are all shell scripts. If they are written in these languages as shell scripts. As many of these languages can also be used to write actual programs versus a shell script.
So when exploring shell scripting understand that you are not limited to any specific language. There are many choices, more than I will list here.
Here is a fun fact for you. Notice how many languages will accept a # as a comment line? This is not an accident or coincidence. It is a design feature so that the language itself will ignore the shebang line in a script.
In fact a large number of common commands we use on the CLI are shell scripts and many are written in python or perl. They are shell scripts. This is why we do not use file extensions on our shell scripts. Though if we were writing a program that is entirely independent from the shell it would be acceptable.
Keep this in mind. If it is part of the name a user has to type that too in order to execute it. So if your script grows to where you have to go from bash, to python or perl, then the filename changes and your script is no longer accessible to those that are unaware of the change.
For files that are consumed by other applications or services then yes, you should use an extension such as .html, .php. If you had a library of functions and shell variable or even environmental variables then you may use a .sh extension, though you would not use a shebang line and you would not make that file executable as it would only be sourced, and never executed.
Keep in mind that file extensions do not really exist in 'nix. a dot is just another character in the filename except when it is the first character and it tells the shell that this is a configuration file and should not be displayed by d
Keep this in mind. If it is part of the name a user has to type that too in order to execute it. So if your script grows to where you have to go from bash, to python or perl, then the filename changes and your script is no longer accessible to those that are unaware of the change.
For files that are consumed by other applications or services then yes, you should use an extension such as .html, .php. If you had a library of functions and shell variable or even environmental variables then you may use a .sh extension, though you would not use a shebang line and you would not make that file executable as it would only be sourced, and never executed.
Keep in mind that file extensions do not really exist in 'nix. a dot is just another character in the filename except when it is the first character and it tells the shell that this is a configuration file and should not be displayed by default. The concept of an extension comes from DR/CPM and then was inherited by MS/DOS etc. Because the extension is used in MIME types by applications and servers we pretend there are extensions in 'nix, even though there is no such built in construct.
Say you have a python script, if it is part of an application and is not a command you use on the CLI then it is completely acceptable to use a .py extension. If it is a command to be used on the CLI then it should not have a .py extension.
There are a lot of new people in the 'nix domain that come from MS/DOS and MS/Windows and they have a hard time accepting that certain artifacts that were necessary on MS OSes are no longer needed or even advised.
The rule of thumb is easy. If it will be executed as a command on the CLI it should not get an extension. If it is an application that will not be used on the CLI then extensions are fine.
Here is a pro-tip for you. If you need to have the .py extension on a file for your editor to recognize it as a python file so you get all the perks you can keep a <filename>.py file and then create a symbolic link to that file with no extension. Say the python filename was hello.py then you could use ln -s hello hello.py be sure not to forget the -s option as this is what makes the link symbolic. This will let your editor know it is a python file and your code will still execute without the user needing to know the .py extension. If I distribute code that I know will run on both MS/Windows and 'nix then I include that symbolic link in my distribution. It will not hurt Windows that it exists and it give a more natural feel on 'nix. Though I have gotten away from supporting Windows at all, sense they now are official 100% spyware. The whole OS malware at this point from my point of view.
@plan-A (ﾟヮﾟ) Also if you invoke your python files like python hello.py then you do not need to make the hello.py file executable at all and there is no need for a shebang line. Though this is how you would typically invoke an app, not a shell script.
I doubt you would need a new cmake 😉. Your build would not be the same as mine though. I build it with Cuda Support for my Nvidia Video card. I keep my Cuda Development Kit in a distrobox container that I created from an OCI container I built with podman. This is necessary because Cuda Dev Kit is not available for Fedora 43. I use a a Fedora 42 Toolbox image as a base to build my OCI image. This is my Containerfile:
FROM registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora-toolbox:42
# 1. Install prerequisites for the installer
RUN dnf -y install wget perl gcc-c++ make cmake kernel-devel && \
dnf clean all
# 2. Download and Install CUDA 13.1 Update 1 (Version 13.1.1)
# Using the -O flag ensures the file is named correctly for the next command
RUN wget https://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/13.1.1/local_installers/cuda_13.1.1_590.48.01_linux.run
I doubt you would need a new cmake 😉. Your build would not be the same as mine though. I build it with Cuda Support for my Nvidia Video card. I keep my Cuda Development Kit in a distrobox container that I created from an OCI container I built with podman. This is necessary because Cuda Dev Kit is not available for Fedora 43. I use a a Fedora 42 Toolbox image as a base to build my OCI image. This is my Containerfile:
FROM registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora-toolbox:42
# 1. Install prerequisites for the installer
RUN dnf -y install wget perl gcc-c++ make cmake kernel-devel && \
dnf clean all
# 2. Download and Install CUDA 13.1 Update 1 (Version 13.1.1)
# Using the -O flag ensures the file is named correctly for the next command
RUN wget https://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/13.1.1/local_installers/cuda_13.1.1_590.48.01_linux.run && \
sh cuda_13.1.1_590.48.01_linux.run --silent --toolkit --override && \
rm cuda_13.1.1_590.48.01_linux.run
# 3. Set Environment Variables
ENV PATH=/usr/local/cuda-13.1/bin${PATH:+:${PATH}}
ENV LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/cuda-13.1/lib64${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}}
# Label for Toolbox/Ptyxis integration
LABEL com.github.containers.toolbox="true"
to build:
podman build -t cuda131-toolbox .
It takes a while for it to build because the Cuda Dev Kit is like 16gb. I then create a dropbox as it is the easiest way to integrate my ptyxis terminal with the Container, it handles all the bind mounts and Volumes for me.
of course for this to work you have to have a Nvidia GPU, Install the Nvidia drivers from RPMFussion Non-free, and create a CDI. This all has to be done before you build the OCI container image and create a dropbox.
Though when done it creates a seamless Cuda Development Environment that I can use for building llama.cpp with cuda support as well as custom version of PyTorch, etc.
I only rebuild the container when a more recent version of the Cuda Dev Kit comes out. So I use the same container for quite a while before I need to rebuild it.
I just synced my fork to llama.cpp on github yesterday and did the build this morning. I had to tweak the build to allow the binaries and libraries to work on my host machine and not just in my dev environment. I just told it to not use shared libraries, and statically link the cuda runtime.
stop using llama.cpp server from the build dir instead install it via:
make sure you are in the build directory cmake --install . --prefix /usr/local
this will install your binaries and libraries to the /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib64 directories of your toolbox.
You will probably have to add a config file for the libraries
create a file named llamacpp.conf in the /etc/ld.so.conf.d directory of your toolbox (if this does not persist then you may need to build it into your container). the contents of the file:
/usr/local/lib64/llamacpp
after creating the file in /etc/ls.so.conf.d you need to run ldconfig in order to update the linker.
if your running a stock Fedora 43 toolbox and it does not allow you modify the contents of /usr/local/lib64 and /usr/local/bin (which it usually does by default) or you cannot add files to the /etc/ld.so.conf.d directory with persistence then let me know and I will help you build a toolbox with those feature built in.
Yes, because everything still runs in the container. For isolation purposes it changes nothing. It just gets it out of your build directory so when you rebuild you do not crush your existing setup. This is important in case the build fails 😉.
A pod is not a container, a pod is typically a number of containers run on a kubernete distributed system. You should not need a new one no, the changes should work in a proper toolbox, that is what toolboxes are for. Though sometimes some of the directories in the toolbox will use read only bind mounts, then your changes will only last until you stop and then restart the container. If you find that the changes do not persist we can build a custom toolbox that will allow those changes to persist. Try it in your existing toolbox, if it is a problem then we will talk about building a custom toolbox.
even if we had to rebuild the toolbox you are using llama.cpp on then it would not be a big deal. We could even create a new container just for llama.cpp and let it run in the background for your llama.cpp server. We would just export the build so that you could install it in the new container. You would only have to rebuild that container when you had a new version of llama.cpp
For your use case it might be the best plan. To move your build to its own container. Then that container is accessible everywhere even to your native MacOS.
You are going to love this 😉. I just checked my fork of llama.cpp and they had some fixes applied (I was 30 commits behind in 2 days 😉 very active project!). So I synced and you guessed it, I rebuilt my llama.cpp 😉. Just when I had everything up and running. It is cool though.
Review the changes in the repo, if you do not feel like they are pressing then you do not have to rebuild for every update, but be sure to do a git pull before your next build.
Okay, again the latest version of llama.cpp is installed to my satisfaction 😉. Though as often as they commit I will probably end up updating about once a week.
My sister got a video of a squirrel doing an acrobatic act to get into her bird feeder. They do not view it as a bird feeder, I told her, they view it as a feeder 😉. They do not get the concept that you would only be putting food out for one type of animal and not all of them. I hope I can get a copy of the video at some point.
Yeah, I took that picture walking up to a customer’s front porch. I work in pest control. They said upon answering that they’ve been hearing noises in the attic. lol… Ya think?!
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This looks quite a bit bigger than the bobcats we have in my region, and they are not to be trifled with. I would be genuinely afraid to see a wildcat that big in my yard. That's halfway to mountain lion size, from the picture!
What's the most common complaint I've heard about Linux?
Not the installation process. Not finding a distro. Not getting programs to work. Not troubleshooting. Not hardware compatibility.
The most common complaint about Linux I've seen is this: For a normal computer user, asking for help is just about impossible.
They ask a simple question and: People respond "Did you Google it?" People complain that the question wasn't asked "correctly". People respond "RTFM" People get mad??? at them for making an easy mistake.
We can't expect normal people to know to, or even know how to deal with any of that stuff.
Search engines these days are awful, manuals are hard to read for most people (especially stuff like ArchWiki), and normal people make mistakes we think are easily avoidable.
The solution to making Linux more popular is not ruthless promotion. The solution is to actually help the people who are trying to use it.
Who are normal computer users? This is a genuine question. Don’t forget that non-normal computer users don’t magically know the answers to all your questions. They search, read the ArchWiki, and draw on past experiences.
Who are normal computer users? This is a genuine question. Don’t forget that non-normal computer users don’t magically know the answers to all your questions. They search, read the ArchWiki, and draw on past experiences.
What's the most common complaint I've heard about Linux?
Not the installation process. Not finding a distro. Not getting programs to work. Not troubleshooting. Not hardware compatibility.
The most common complaint about Linux I've seen is this: For a normal computer user, asking for help is just about impossible.
They ask a simple question and: People respond "Did you Google it?" People complain that the question wasn't asked "correctly". People respond "RTFM" People get mad??? at them for making an easy mistake.
We can't expect normal people to know to, or even know how to deal with any of that stuff.
Search engines these days are awful, manuals are hard to read for most people (especially stuff like ArchWiki), and normal people make mistakes we think are easily avoidable.
The solution to making Linux more popular is not ruthless promotion. The solution is to actually help the people who are trying to use it.
@nawanp i found out that somekind of limit is: have you ever changed the devices operating system? There are a lot of people who have never opened BIOS or UEFI to change boot settings. Installing new system is not hard these days. Click Ok and move on right? But that seems to be some form of devision of "user category"... if that made any sense ?
Vaguely related; Microsoft pays help desk (or, okay, used to). And for decades most people learned Windows somewhere with paid support of some kind - schools, enterprise contracts.
And it doesn’t FOSS the same way the software does because teaching people doesn’t copy for free. Software’s like a tune, those always spread almost on their own. User education is like learning to play an instrument, that’s just as hard now as it was a hundred years ago.
I make it known to everyone I know that if and when they are ready to try out Linux, I am available as their on-call nerd anytime they run into trouble.
Very few takers. I did introduce some musician friends to #Zynthian and they bought one, but that's just cause it's an amazing project/product. They (musical couple) are now running Linux on one of their PCs, but they didn't need to ask for help lol
Another common thing I've encountered is feeling like people aren't really listening to you or aren't willing to take the time to understand the situation before they start throwing stuff at you.
This is sometimes how people recommend Linux itself, as a solution to a problem in a situation where switching to Linux would either be unfeasible or where that'd cause a lot more headache than simply finding a workaround for now and look into switching to linux at a later date when you're not actively trying to solve a problem.
A lot of these issues, I feel like, come from an inability a lot of people have to admit they don't know something. That's why they feel the need to make it out like you're the one wrong for asking the question, or try and steer them towards something you do have an expertise in even if that thing isn't actually helpful in the situation.
No reasonable person is gonna think less if you just admit you don't know. "I don't know, but I'll try looking into it" is a lot better than bullshitting some answer or deflecting the question. And when it comes
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Another common thing I've encountered is feeling like people aren't really listening to you or aren't willing to take the time to understand the situation before they start throwing stuff at you.
This is sometimes how people recommend Linux itself, as a solution to a problem in a situation where switching to Linux would either be unfeasible or where that'd cause a lot more headache than simply finding a workaround for now and look into switching to linux at a later date when you're not actively trying to solve a problem.
A lot of these issues, I feel like, come from an inability a lot of people have to admit they don't know something. That's why they feel the need to make it out like you're the one wrong for asking the question, or try and steer them towards something you do have an expertise in even if that thing isn't actually helpful in the situation.
No reasonable person is gonna think less if you just admit you don't know. "I don't know, but I'll try looking into it" is a lot better than bullshitting some answer or deflecting the question. And when it comes to computers in particular, I'm pretty convinced there are only two kinds of people: people who don't know what they are doing at least half the time and people who are lying.
This. People like to waltz around all proud "I'm from the 'RTFM' days, kids these days, grumble grumble" and I'm thinking to myself... the problem ain't the kids...
"I'm tired of answering all these basic (author's note: not as basic as they think) questions. They can just find the answers themselves!" like, okay, then stop complaining on their questions on forums if you're so tired of it.
Or my personal favorite: being a seasoned linux user and needing a quick reminder on how to do something. First search engine hit is a forum post of someone telling someone else to RTFM. Thanks for wasting mine and everyone's time.
Wonderful. Exactly. I have been on Linux for almost 20 years and still things happen and I do not understand the "simple" instructions that honestly are in a language that I never learned. When I was in school we saw the "computer" in a room with a controlled environment and we learned to mark punch cards. I enjoy my little laptop - lets me into the Mastodon club! - but if something stops?? Sadly the "help" even from people who want to be helpful is often still beyond my understanding. Fortunately Linux (Ubuntu now Debian) is really well done. Hardly ever have any issues.
not true anymore. With AI integrated in most search engine, you often get the right response from it. One of the few benefits of AI is that it can basically customise the documentation to make it sensible to you. It becomes a kind of live documentation.
A simple how to fix … on [distro name] works 95% of the time in my experience.
@CedC 95% means you might break your system after being curious or frustrated 20 times. you need to be really boring to make it far in these conditions 😱
@CedC I might get hate from my Fedi ingroup for this but I find this to be an extremely good use of AI. I use Perplexity (a really nice AI search engine tool) for quickly learning technical stuff that would take me a ton of work reading scattered, sparse documentation otherwise
the trick is to only ask it for information that you can immediately test/verify
(with this said, I don’t financially support AI companies ever because I’m very worried about the risks posed by AI)
@CedC and the other great thing (/s) about those answers is that they have no responsibility or safeguards to stick to the truth, so it's always a fun little gambling game of "will this work, do nothing, or brick my device?" So much better than asking real people who actually know about a thing and can give you an accurate and nuanced answer!
Do not peddle AI slop as the savior here. AI is not helpful, it is not useful. It is a prediction engine of what sounds like the right answer. Not what is the right answer, but what will sound plausibly like a correct answer.
That slop is part of the reason why the kindness in the Linux community is so important right now. AI is putting a lot of bad information out there. It is making up urls for people to download packages from that malicious folk then go and register domains for to offer up malware to these trusting people. It makes up names of packages and programs that do not exist, sending users into forums asking for total nonsense because the pedo-bot or the bullshit engine told them that would fix their problem.
@deathkitten You are going to make me soud like an AI fan, which is not the case, but your statement is incorrect.
Yes AI is a prédiction engine, but so are we.
If you make a llm play chess, which is not what it has been trained for, we now have proof that it _does_ create an internal representation of the board and its pieces event if it is not supposed to "know" the rules.
While I agree with all that, it is then again equally annoying when those "noobs" either want to go directly into customizing/theming/"ricing" (hate that word) within the first 24 hours they are using their distro and are frustrated when this involves more than "double-clicking" an *.exe. on the other hand a lot of people REALLY try hard to find ways to make everything as close as possible to win7/10/11 as possible which will also fail in the long run
It might sound simple and I am aware people often volunteer but not getting a reply after hours of waiting is even for me as a nerd very frustrating. At least after a while have someone say "sorry it seems we can't help you either. Maybe you can leave a ticket on our tracker/mailinglist" or something along those lines. That often would have made me feel better than the feeling of being ignored or worse feeling I asked something so stupid nobody wants to talk to me.
Linux has been plagued, from day one, by an elitist and ableist culture. If you don't understand, you're stupid and you don't deserve to be using it.
Want another feature? Make your own fork. The manual is too hard to understand? Write your own version. Making Linux user friendly is not our job and we don't care.
Mhhm, yeah. Perhaps giving positions of privilege to assholes just because they code well may have not been the best approach.
Another big issue is the intense use of jargon in replies to questions. Sure, it's a faster way to get information from your brain onto a forum, but a new user to Ubuntu is not going to understand it, and isn't likely to go looking up every third word.
You're right, but just saying, Kimi Code 2.5 is currently free to use, and can make a fantastic technical coach/explainer for just the sort of noob you're describing.
I hear you. I've been frustrated too. But you're asking people to share expertise for free when they honestly have already shared a whole crap ton of it.
Maybe people who can't understand that should stick to the proprietary platforms who are willing to monetize your soul as collateral instead.
I'm thinking - why not form a group of volunteers who can help configure linux for users? Once its configured with all the software that a user needs, its a breeze to use.
I hear what you are saying, but, there are caveat's to it.
If you go from Windows/MacOS to ARCH or a rolling-release type of distro then you can expect some folk to be a little short on patience with newbies.
Not because they're unhelpful but because its a pretty silly thing to do.
After 2 years on Linux Mint I have just moved to Debian 13 and GNOME desktop was strange at first. But I still don't think I could be bothered with an ARCH type distro.
I think if you do your research and choose a distro recommended for learners there are plenty of helpful, patient, folk willing to walk you through the basics.
Doesn't mean you are wrong, I'm just not sure things are THAT critical atm.
I think this is called verbal abuse and Linux has a problem with bad management - "a fish starts stinking from the head".
RTFM means Read The Fucking Manual, which is a triple verbal abuse: 1) Ordering, which is verbal abuse (older version of Wikipedia: Verbal abuse) 2) The word "fucking", which is a curse word 3) Abusive anger. The phrase obviously conveys anger. Anger is an emotion which belongs to a situation where someone behaves unfair. But the user asking for help does not behave unfair.
Also another problem is that Linux is, in my experience, simply unreliable. When I boot up my computer, sometimes: 1) X doesn't come up, stays in text mode 2) X comes up with the screen at wrong smaller resolution and the picture is in one corner of the screen 3) Mouse doesn't work 4) Keyboard doesn't work 5) Keyboard has wrong repetition rate 6) When inserting a USB peripheral, USB hard disk disconnects and the system crashes 7) Manpages are missing important information 8) Fails to update between major versions with guarantee of functionality
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I think this is called verbal abuse and Linux has a problem with bad management - "a fish starts stinking from the head".
RTFM means Read The Fucking Manual, which is a triple verbal abuse: 1) Ordering, which is verbal abuse (older version of Wikipedia: Verbal abuse) 2) The word "fucking", which is a curse word 3) Abusive anger. The phrase obviously conveys anger. Anger is an emotion which belongs to a situation where someone behaves unfair. But the user asking for help does not behave unfair.
Also another problem is that Linux is, in my experience, simply unreliable. When I boot up my computer, sometimes: 1) X doesn't come up, stays in text mode 2) X comes up with the screen at wrong smaller resolution and the picture is in one corner of the screen 3) Mouse doesn't work 4) Keyboard doesn't work 5) Keyboard has wrong repetition rate 6) When inserting a USB peripheral, USB hard disk disconnects and the system crashes 7) Manpages are missing important information 8) Fails to update between major versions with guarantee of functionality 9) System freezes to a grinding halt instead of managing the RAM resource when RAM demand from programs exceeds RAM size 10) Sound doesn't work
Also I would say 80% of solutions from Google don't work and 40% of them don't work and screw up your system and don't contain information how to reverse the changes after you did them and realized they don't work.
Asking "Have you tried Google?" is like a car mechanic asking a customer "have you tried unauthorized, possibly irreversibly damaging tampering with your engine according to the advice of a random, likely incompetent, bystander?"
I think this is called verbal abuse and Linux has a problem with bad management - "a fish starts stinking from the head".
RTFM means Read The Fucking Manual, which is a triple verbal abuse: 1) Ordering, which is verbal abuse (Wikipedia) 2) The word "fucking", which is a curse word 3) Abusive anger. The phrase obviously conveys anger. Anger is an emotion which belongs to a situation where someone behaves unfair. But the user asking for help does not behave unfair.
probably offering a rare counter prespective here. I'm a total noob and just didn't want to throw away my totally fine Windows 10 laptop. Installed Ubuntu and everything that could go wrong probably did go wrong. But when I asked here for help, I got utterly flooded in kind replies and helpful advice from the Linux community. I might not have understood a lot of it, but nobody was rude or terrible about it. Sadly, it wasn't a problem that could be solved remote via toots, but someone here gave me a link to a site and I found a local group of students at the university. I went to one of their meetings and got help from a lovely young man 😁
The most hostile user base of all is Macs, Apple people truly hate each other. Issues are betrayal of the cult leader.
Then comes Linux, though it HAS improved a bit. You don't get "Just recompile your kernel!" to every single question about why your fucking wifi won't stay up or or your screensaver won't lock.
Then windows. The most shithouse OS on the planet actually has the most friendly help base, though it is often completely useless!
It's also ableism. Ten years ago I could have RTFM but now as a person with cognitive issues it's not always that easy, which is literally why i've held off on installing it
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Seconded. It's been said that Apple hates computers but loves users, and that Linux hates users but loves computers. There's room for everyone at the console. Death to the elitist penguin.
i joined a forum I had to because i'm an idiot. My complaint about Linux is that my computer looks exactly the same. I have mint it's terribly boring. Lol 😆
The primary reason i bought a system76 pre-installed laptop for my initial transition was the "create a ticket" button it has in the settings. Nice people who get paid to help me help me when i push it and give me copy-pasteable terminal commands by email.
A lot of subject matter experts think it is beneath them to explain something simple to a new user, and maybe even get off on making fun of them. I speak from experience, as someone who was that asshole in my younger days. A key difference between a junior vs a senior dev is not so much skill or knowledge, as mentoring other devs, helping them learn. Saying "RTFM" is often unhelpful, whereas an actual link to TFM and maybe a section or page number might be helpful.
There are lot of help tutorials online, but some are not easy to find with google search because advertizing... and the ai sh** Linux is not hard, one just have to put some effort on learning. Lower the standards as if people is stupid is a bad thing in everything, not only Linux. And... ArchWiki has very detailed tutorials. I used it to fix things on other distros not related to Arch. Dude!
As someone who has been involved in open source for almost 3 decades, this is it right here. It's actually among the reasons I don't participate in open source. The communities tend to be hostile.
As I saw someone put it not long ago: If one is going to push someone to use linux, one needs to be prepared to be that person's tech support. If one is unwilling to take on this role, don't push people to linux.
Thank you, I have been reading this thread with interest,as a Linux N00B. I like your final couple of lines.
I have a couple of decades working in IT.
Reading the Fine Manual is a solution if you have read the manual from cover to cover and comprehend the contents. It is hard to find a solution to your problem in chapter 19 when the manual is assuming you have the knowledge from the previous chapters 1-18.
Asking for help. Firstly, and I am suffering with this myself, you cannot ask a sensible question if you don't know what it is you are asking for. I've recently had problems in setting up an external drive for back-ups. I went through all the forums before I discovered it was a permissions thing - I think.
Secondly, answer givers, don't always respond to the poor question you asked but give you the answer to a question they think you asked. Also, the response maybe at a technical level beyond that of the person asking the question. One of my stumbling blocks, now, is understanding how to carry out even basic functions in terminal. I am scared to ask quest
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Thank you, I have been reading this thread with interest,as a Linux N00B. I like your final couple of lines.
I have a couple of decades working in IT.
Reading the Fine Manual is a solution if you have read the manual from cover to cover and comprehend the contents. It is hard to find a solution to your problem in chapter 19 when the manual is assuming you have the knowledge from the previous chapters 1-18.
Asking for help. Firstly, and I am suffering with this myself, you cannot ask a sensible question if you don't know what it is you are asking for. I've recently had problems in setting up an external drive for back-ups. I went through all the forums before I discovered it was a permissions thing - I think.
Secondly, answer givers, don't always respond to the poor question you asked but give you the answer to a question they think you asked. Also, the response maybe at a technical level beyond that of the person asking the question. One of my stumbling blocks, now, is understanding how to carry out even basic functions in terminal. I am scared to ask questions right now.
What, am I doing about my lack of knowledge. I've got as far as chapter 2 in the fine manual. I now know I'm am definitely not in Kansas anymore
one hack I found was not to ask how to do something, but where to find an answer in the manual. Often the people who normally would go rtfm can't find it either and someone actually gives the answer.
I'll be honest...as a complete 100% Linux user now, I put it off for decades because of being crapped on as a newbie. The advent of Mint finally let me make the switch and still get work done while I figured things our for myself. That, and never looking at Reddit for advice.
Lots of interesting replies here - some that are encouraging, some, well, not so much. I have been wanting to take the plunge for over a year now, but have zero skills. Now I have an old laptop which I will play with first, and if I brick it I’ll leave my pc alone.
That's not my experience. I first tried Linux (Zorin 8) in 2014 when XP went EOL. I then tried Ubuntu Mate but settled on using plain Ubuntu (LTS) for 8 years till 2022 when I returned to Windows (10 now 11). I never saw or read any manual, but the support from the Ubuntu One community was outstanding. ItsFoss was also extremely helpful. If they ever fix the Snap package manager I might return.
The biggest problem with getting people to use linux is people like you pre-emptively yelling at all linux users to never suggest anything or try to help.
this is a good chance for the LUGs (Linux user groups) to start a public help desk kind of thing. There are LUGs in nearly every city all over the world (except perhaps DPRK) and in many towns. But often they are suffering from the deep niche nerd factor, discussing the ugly nitty gritty of packaging or highly specific server questions, wrapping and unwrapping docket containers, k8s, etc, stuff that a homey migrating away from MSFT doesn't (yet) really care about. Adding a helpdesk in the "Linux for Dummies" style would be a good start. #EndOfTen is a very good example. Ping @xtaran and friends.
My first foray into Linux was 12 years ago. Those responses and related gatekeeping are why I never became passionate about Linux. Too many who are have become elitist twats.
I like Linux. I have no intention of switching to anything else anytime soon. But if I choose an OS based on the behaviors of the fans, I'd choose Windows every time, and I hate windows.
Some Linux users make me dislike being a Linux user.
You hit the nail on the head. The problem isn't the technology, but the people.
Anyone looking for answers for Linux no longer asks in forums but resorts to any LLM. As a consequence, fewer and fewer answers will be found in forums in the future.
This also means that LLMs will have fewer sources, and therefore their answers will be even less useful in the future...
Why do you think Linux users should want it to be bigger? Growth is a monopolist thing. The community wrote the documentation for each distro. There is a limit to how many people who don't even try to help themselves any community. They SHOULD read the manual first. If they don't understand then people will see they've tried and help. That's part of the culture. They will be expected to 'pay that forward' as they advance too.
I do NOT want Linux to be more accessible or popular, otherwise it will become another Windows. Tech thrived only when it was moderately meritocratic, now it is becoming another playfield for private equity companies.
Yes. Asking for help on Windows, and responses come from normal users. Ask on Linux often gets an IT pro level person, who means well, but has NO CLUE about usability. And has never looked for an easy GUI way. And will often tell you there is only an IT hack to do it. The moment you ask for a way avoiding the CLI, many lecture you on their misguided idea of usability, and why the CLI is better. Try it. Specifically ask for a GUI method, and watch the friendly, helpful demeanor change. 'Go back to Windows' even. Gatekeeping at its worst. Why do those with least interest in usability, argue about it the most?
On the other hand, people always act as if non-IT people are completely stupid. They are not. They also solve Windows and Linux problems on their own, I've seen it often enough. In my opinion, with AI tools they make it even further with Linux than with Windows, because the information quality, availability, and quantity are higher with Linux. With Windows, the information situation is usually poor. And there's nothing you can do with iOS anyway.
It's always the same old story: Questions about Windows or iOS are handled unfriendly on the Internet also (have you ever seen a friendly printer forum 😂). This is not a Linux community problem. This is a behavioral problem on the Internet. But it's true, being friendly could be an extra chance.
I am helping the people around me who now have Linux instead of windows in the same friendly way 😀
Definitely. Meanwhile most of the questions normal users have will be – politely – answered by any LLM of choice. It’s the challenge for the human IT people to outmatch this.;)
There are more than one side to this. Consider how you ask the question?
I have experienced Questions asked in a "please just do it for me" fashion. Question asked with a "this is just too complicated! Why is linux so hard!!!" (when really, it is equally complicated on Windows, just done differently)
If you ask a question and "people get mad", there could possibly be something in how you ask the question?
People get upset and frustrated because they have to invest a little time in figuring out how things work differently, and get mad because they don't get the answer in a "follow these simple step" fashioned, served instantly.
exactly. And also in Cases, wäre it is not even a mistake. When asking 'how can I solve $minor_Detail_issue in $programm ?' the most common reply will be ' $programm is shit, use $oldbutgold_terminalsolution-i-tried-before for that!'
At least over here in Germany, there are dozens of dedicated Linux User Groups as well as most Hackerspaces offering public meetings and sometimes online communities. Many of these groups welcome guests and are usually happy to help with issues or at least know where additional help is available. I would assume other countries have a similar community. They’re definitely worth a try.
I think we agree all, that this isn't a special problem of Linux, but of asking in the internet for help. Being unfriendly and unhelpful is much easier and quicker to do there, especially if you are incompetent. The good answers arrive after you have given up your faith in Linux and humanity. Even here in the fediverse.
Somebody who is paid to be kind to you is maybe the better person to ask, but sadly, my experience says no.
+1 to all of this! Wikis, cryptic readmes, forums in github or discord, no, thanks! The documentation, of free, open-source projects, has long been a prblem for me.
Putting politeness aside (yes, that is an issue), there is complication: Those who write that software like to write that software but do not like that much doing support work. (Plus it's quite a drag: they already gave away lots of work, no time to give away other kind of work.)
Hence opportunity to those who are not able to write software but are able to help others use it: write documentation, answers support forums, coordinate with developers, etc.
And this is why I'm involved with #LinuxCafé, #Linux #installparties, #Linuxdays, #diday ... events, giving #PIM lectures and talks and hopefully publishing a book on how to organize yourself and your data some day.
To me, it's all one common topic: Helping people to help themselves without #lockin effects.
I even changed distros several times in the past to anticipate problems that new users may have with it so I can assist them. But it was usually people I know, not strangers in forums, so maybe that was the problem. That the kind of people sticking around forums were mostly assholes.
there is another point I would like to stress as versatile Linux user: the ergonomics are a catastrophe on Linux.
E.g., on #Debian you have to click on completely unrelated icons to find the Button for shutting down the machine. Some distros even disallow this and you need to be sudo to even have the possibility to achieve this. No one supports hibernation anymore. Every time I test a Debian derivative I have one WTF moment after the other.
I am using Linux and FreeBSD since 1993 and got help and I offered help a lot.
Rarely I have observed rudeness.
This is stereotyping.
In fact, it took ages until people got the message: I don't fix your Windows computer. I just do not enjoy that. Even then, when a good friend has an issue, I will take a look. But I don't use them every day and don't know all the bells and whistles of MS systems.
Man, yeah. I've been using Linux for 20 years. About four years ago I went fully immutable/atomic.
Every time I read up on the current state of immutable/atomic desktops, I'm routinely told that I'm not a *real* Linux user. Or if I'm not compiling and running anything but raw Arch, I'm a browser-only basic user.
For me, it comes down to this: I don't want to work on my OS, I want to use my OS to work. Give me stock KDE with a system that can't be accidentally nuked.
you’re absolutely right, but the issue is on both sides. There’s a massive culture issue in tech where people are expected to magically know everything, and I think power users can mitigate it in part by being open about what we *don’t* know. The other issue is that volunteers have limited time, so new users do need to try google searching first and try RTFM first. They should be saying “I googled and read the manual and found these things, which I don’t understand. Please explain them to me.” And then power users need to politely explain things *without calling them stupid.*
After years of using Linux, the main problem is, each solution need to be done in a terminal. You can't avoid typing command in a terminal. And it's an accessibility problem, if you can't solve without it, you failed at bringing Linux to noobs. On windows, lot of users don't know there is a terminal. FYI, I'm in IT since ICQ. BTW, I won't argue here, cause you know Linux fan boys (not you).
I've always done my best to help people become able to help themselves. Show them how to find the information they need, how to search for it. Walk them through applying that information, being there to hold their hand but not lead. Never insult, never put them down.
I've had multiple of them come back to me later because other people were assholes when they just needed a clear answer.
This, attacking the questioner, is prevalent on all so called peer help sites on any topic. It is like 100s of thousands of users are on standby just to jump on a question and say "That has already been asked and answered!" Use them at your bane. A lot of modern distros have huge support sites, Like Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu etc there are people there at all levels that can help you. I am not a fan of Canonical nor do I endorse their products though they do have an extremely well done community support site.
As for some people still living in the 2000 ERA do not believe them when they tell you that you have to learn the terminal to administrate your system. You do not have to. Modern distros have GUI tools for about anything a typical user needs. Anything you might need to go to the terminal for is way beyond what an average user would even think of needing to do with their system. Do not listen to these people, they are stuck in the past an
This, attacking the questioner, is prevalent on all so called peer help sites on any topic. It is like 100s of thousands of users are on standby just to jump on a question and say "That has already been asked and answered!" Use them at your bane. A lot of modern distros have huge support sites, Like Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu etc there are people there at all levels that can help you. I am not a fan of Canonical nor do I endorse their products though they do have an extremely well done community support site.
As for some people still living in the 2000 ERA do not believe them when they tell you that you have to learn the terminal to administrate your system. You do not have to. Modern distros have GUI tools for about anything a typical user needs. Anything you might need to go to the terminal for is way beyond what an average user would even think of needing to do with their system. Do not listen to these people, they are stuck in the past and simply have no idea what they are talking about. Experience it yourself and see how wrong they are.
I would be glad to help anyone that is having an issue. Just make a post and tag me in it.
He's just Vicious and Aggressive, Neglecting Courts and Ethics. I don't need to spell the name of this beardy egomane who's afraid of well-earned verdicts.
He's just Vicious and Aggressive, Neglecting Courts and Ethics. I don't need to spell the name of this beardy egomane who's afraid of well-earned verdicts.
@kimlockhartga You’re seriously using James Franco, who abused his position of power and had sex with his students at his acting school, in a meme about the Epstein files? And Tobey Maguire, 50, who is now dating a woman of 20?
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A może by tak... "w miarę przyzwoite - Nerdy Nocą." - na dole link do podcastu o prehistorii.
A na załączonym obrazku dwie Wenus. Pierwsza gliniana z Dolnych Westonic (29 000 r.p.n.e.) i nieco starsza koleżanka z Willendorfu wykonana ze skały kredowej (30 000 r.p.n.e.)
@brie 😬 to sie popisałem Ale juz ostatnio rozkminialem, ze wszyscy moi nauczyciele historii odwalili maniane, nic a nic mnie nie zainteresowali tematem. A temu kto wymyslil uczyć sie na pamięć przywilejów szlacheckich to bym kazał wychłostać
Jak Witos był premierem, to odwiedzał kiedyś jakąś „szlachecką” wieś, taki typowy zaścianek, co to jak pies na majątku jednego pana brata usiądzie, to ogon już u drugiego trzyma – ale papiery, a nawet i pergaminy z wywodem szlachectwa każdy trzymał w skrzyni i hołubił. No i jak Polska wróciła, a do wsi premier przyjechał, to wyszli mu je pokazać.
Witos szlachty i szlachetczyzny nie lubił, popatrzył na szpargały… – A na co te papiórki? Zatchnęli się wszyscy, a najstarszy odwarknął: – A na to, że jak chamuków – pokazał palcem – w dupę bili, to nas nie mogli!
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Szlachcica byś nie mógł.
Jak Witos był premierem, to odwiedzał kiedyś jakąś „szlachecką” wieś, taki typowy zaścianek, co to jak pies na majątku jednego pana brata usiądzie, to ogon już u drugiego trzyma – ale papiery, a nawet i pergaminy z wywodem szlachectwa każdy trzymał w skrzyni i hołubił. No i jak Polska wróciła, a do wsi premier przyjechał, to wyszli mu je pokazać.
Witos szlachty i szlachetczyzny nie lubił, popatrzył na szpargały… – A na co te papiórki? Zatchnęli się wszyscy, a najstarszy odwarknął: – A na to, że jak chamuków – pokazał palcem – w dupę bili, to nas nie mogli!
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@Mateusz @brie No historia (szdkolna) w moim przypadku również zawiodła. Ciekawość przyszła z czasem. Co do tych paleolitycznych Wenus jest jedna figurka datowana na 300 000 - 500 000 lat, ale jest poddawane w wątpliwość czy to na pewno ręce hominida wytworzyły.... druga jest już bezsprzecznie zrobiona przez człowieka, bo znaleziono ją w popiele. Pochodzi sprzed 280 000 - 250 000 lat. A mamy też swoją Kołobrzeską Wenus sprzed 12 000 lat
@unusnemo właściwie, to według Wikipedii taki właśnie był przedcywilizacyjny kanon piękna. Grube uda, krępe biodra były symbolem zamożności i płodności. Czyli cytując Mister D:
"Płaczą, płaczą wszystkie koleżanki gdy żrę na przerwie moje kanapki. - Daj choć gryza, daj polizać. - Weź wpierdalaj swoje, bo moje są:
Z hajsem, z tłustym hajsem Z Egiptem, z Audi i ze smalcem Z hajsem, z tłustym hajsem Z szynką z amstafa i z hajsem i z hajsem" xD
I was first introduced to the wonderful world of programming when I was 9 years old (46 years ago as of this writing). My middle school had just gotten some Franklin Ace 2000s (Think Apple IIe clone) and my father bought us a Commodore 64 for the house. While my siblings were most interested in playing games on the Commodore I wanted to program. Armed with books like Jim Butterfield's 'Machine Language for the Commodore 64' I began writing my own BASIC wedges and creating portable software from the Commodore 64 to the Apple IIe (which had similar CPUs in the 6502 family based on the Z80). I loved programming. It gave me a space that I felt like I had some control and my life was not just a tail spin of undesirable events.
Seeing my interests as having potential my father got with a friend that was still in the Navy and procured a decommissioned portable that was available from surplus. It had a Z80
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In The Beginning ...
I was first introduced to the wonderful world of programming when I was 9 years old (46 years ago as of this writing). My middle school had just gotten some Franklin Ace 2000s (Think Apple IIe clone) and my father bought us a Commodore 64 for the house. While my siblings were most interested in playing games on the Commodore I wanted to program. Armed with books like Jim Butterfield's 'Machine Language for the Commodore 64' I began writing my own BASIC wedges and creating portable software from the Commodore 64 to the Apple IIe (which had similar CPUs in the 6502 family based on the Z80). I loved programming. It gave me a space that I felt like I had some control and my life was not just a tail spin of undesirable events.
Seeing my interests as having potential my father got with a friend that was still in the Navy and procured a decommissioned portable that was available from surplus. It had a Z80 processor and used DR/ CPM (Digital Research's Control Program for Microcomputers OS (Operating System)). It gave me my own system that I did not have to fight my siblings to gain access to 😀. I ported over all my more useful utilities and learned the CPM kernel routines. I was in my version of heaven. A place where I belonged.
By the time I was an adult the Intel 8086 became popular in Personal Computers thanks to IBM. Most of us were a bit taken aback as the 8086 was typically used for embedded controllers and not dedicated to a stand alone system. Though, despite its many caveats it worked out 😉. I quickly and eagerly adapted to having so much more disk space and memory to play with. Things were only getting better. In the first version of MS/ DOS, which was based on CPM and Unix internally, development tools such as MASM and a Linker were standard, as they were on most systems of that era. Though MS quickly removed them leaving only BASIC for the hobbyists to play with in subsequent versions.
Somewhere around 1992 I was going through some Use Net topics when I stumbled up some articles on a Unix derivative for the Intel 386 and compatibles. I had just heard about Linux (the Kernel) and the GNU project as well. I did some more research and downloaded the source I needed. I built my own home rolled version of Gnu/Linux minus X windows as that was just to much to download on my 2400 baud connection.
That was a new Golden Era in my development life. The tool chains on 'nix (Unix like Systems) are so much better than on any other system I had used as of yet. I spent hours and days just customizing and learning to develop on this wonderful new Utopia I had found. I left MS/ DOS & MS/ Windows (3.x) behind without a second thought. I have kept current with MS/ Windows as much of my family and friends used that toy OS. I did not blame them, they were not serious about their work on computers as I was and am still today.
I often read about new users experiencing 'nix for the first time 😀. I see all their blunders, bumbling and confusion trying to make 'nix something it is not (MS/ Windows). They want something different, but do not want to change 😉. It is amusing to observe. GNU/Linux has come a long way from the days you rolled your own. There are many distros (distributions) that have been evolving around specific types of users and their use cases. I have tried many of them. I am pretty much at home with Fedora Workstation though I keep trying new distros as they appear just for fun. I still use my own home rolled (from scratch) builds in embedded systems. For my Daily Driver (a 'nix term for the system you use for daily use) I use Fedora Workstation with podman for containerized projects. It has been awhile, and a very exciting and wonderful journey.
If you are just joining the GNU/Linux community I welcome you and hope you enjoy your adventures as much as I do. If you are an old hat such as myself, then it would be nice to meet you. Drop a comment, either of you 😉.
Trump posted: “The Super Bowl Halftime Show is absolutely terrible, one of the worst EVER! It makes no sense, is an affront to the Greatness of America, and doesn’t represent our standards of Success, Creativity, or Excellence. Nobody understands a word this guy is saying, and the dancing is disgusting, especially for young children that are watching from throughout the USA and all over the World. (Note: I wouldn’t mention children if I were you.) This ‘Show’ is just a ‘slap in the face’ to our Country. There is nothing inspirational about this mess of a Halftime Show, and watch, it will get great reviews from the Fake News Media, because they haven’t got a clue of what is going on in the REAL WORLD.”
The past two days have seen a growing struggle between Democrats, who are demanding accountability from the Trump administration, and Republicans trying to hide what the administration is up to.
Humans naturally are afraid of things that look human but are not, (Uncanny Valley Effect) why would we evolve that way? Would it not make sense its because at one point we had a predator like that.
By that same logic, wouldn't that predator adapt to look even more human so to be able to capture its prey easier? By thier own evolution they are able to move themselves into human society and live amongst us eventually ruling over us? (If not create the society)
More proof could be, what do predators normally target? The young of another species, what if pedophiles are either hybrids or the other species altogether?
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I have once been mistaken for a bot, so here's a picture of me with Ollie on my shoulder. He chose to not peck my eyes out, which I am eternally grateful for.
Today while discussing a topic that was not at all pleasant or cheerful I just had to smile. Not because of anything broached in the discourse. Rather because of the other parties moniker/ nic (display name). I did not believe it would be appropriate to comment this on their post given the grave nature of the post. The moniker I am refering to is @Juggling With Eggs and this name brings back a lot of fond memories.
As a child and likely I have not out grown this. I had a very different flavor of humor. One of the skits I used to perform for my family and friends was what I called my juggling bit. I would get family and friends together in the family room, that some of you may refer to as the living room. I would then pull out some tennis balls and tell them I wanted them to see how I hav
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Things That Make Me Smile
Today while discussing a topic that was not at all pleasant or cheerful I just had to smile. Not because of anything broached in the discourse. Rather because of the other parties moniker/ nic (display name). I did not believe it would be appropriate to comment this on their post given the grave nature of the post. The moniker I am refering to is @Juggling With Eggs and this name brings back a lot of fond memories.
As a child and likely I have not out grown this. I had a very different flavor of humor. One of the skits I used to perform for my family and friends was what I called my juggling bit. I would get family and friends together in the family room, that some of you may refer to as the living room. I would then pull out some tennis balls and tell them I wanted them to see how I have been progressing on my juggling. I would then do a very bad job of juggling those balls (mainly because I cannot really juggle). I would then make an announcement that I believed it was obvious that I was ready to step up my game. I would pull out some eggs and well really make a mess 😉. Then as a grand finale I would say. "That was interesting, time to level up" and I would pull out some very large knives and a machete 😀. Okay, even though my audience knew this was a gag and that I was not actually going to attempt to juggle those objects, they still backed up to a supposed safe distance. This routine was so popular that when new friends or family were present I would have volunteers to clean up (the eggs) if I was willing to perform. I of course agreed. I was 10 to 11 years old at this time. A happy era of my childhood. Not every period of my childhood is as enjoyable to remember. Though I prefer to focus on happiness and not misery. It is one of those little things that keep me sane or as close to it as I will ever be. 😉
I love that you went there…you actually gave juggling with eggs a go! As only a kid could do at that age.
Sadly I taught myself to juggle slightly later - I was about 15 I think. And by that point the fear had set in. I can competently juggle 3 items…but I’ve only ever been brave enough to use rubber eggs.
My handle here comes from the cognitive dissonance I thought was required between believing you can and actually juggling with eggs…
Ah, cognitive dissonance! The bases of the conservative agenda! Except of course the far right. That would be better described as sociopathy. Of course, no offense intended to my soci... I mean conservative friends. 😉
When I first came to the Fediverse, having been chased away from Meta by censorship and witch hunts against Gnu/Linux enthusiasts, I finally checked out Mastodon. Something I had intended to do for a long time though never got around to. I just did not like the Mastodon Micro blogging format. I was never on Twitter for that precise reason. Though Mastodon was friendlier than Twitter, I still just did not like it. So I looked for other alternatives. I really like Friendica. It has its warts, make no mistake, I deal with them often. You do not even want to look at my error logs caused by the system itself. It would make a strong person stumble and weep. With that said, I still prefer it over other Instances I have reviewed which also produce plenty of errors themselves. So when I set out to setup my own Instance (3 - 5 days into my entering the Fediverse) I chose Friendica. I have not regretted that decision.
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Instance Hiccups
When I first came to the Fediverse, having been chased away from Meta by censorship and witch hunts against Gnu/Linux enthusiasts, I finally checked out Mastodon. Something I had intended to do for a long time though never got around to. I just did not like the Mastodon Micro blogging format. I was never on Twitter for that precise reason. Though Mastodon was friendlier than Twitter, I still just did not like it. So I looked for other alternatives. I really like Friendica. It has its warts, make no mistake, I deal with them often. You do not even want to look at my error logs caused by the system itself. It would make a strong person stumble and weep. With that said, I still prefer it over other Instances I have reviewed which also produce plenty of errors themselves. So when I set out to setup my own Instance (3 - 5 days into my entering the Fediverse) I chose Friendica. I have not regretted that decision.
There have been a lot of challenges. Friendica's main development team uses Ubuntu server and I will not use anything from Canonical. I could have used a Debian Server though I prefer RHEL based distros. So I went with Rocky Linux 9, which added complexities to the install but undaunted I pressed forward and got my Instance up and running. I made some really bad choices to begin with. I installed via a zip file and then decided that was a really poor decision. It complicated upgrading. So I re-installed via git, which I could have just converted my install to a git repository but seeing I really had not launched yet it was easier and faster to just re-install. I then had a constant fight with SELinux to keep it from preventing upgrades and services I required from running. After I finally completely got SELinux configured I ran into database scheduling issues. Which I found a cure for on the Friendica GitHub Issues. One issue I have never managed to resolve was how php-fpm will just decide to die for some reason without a consistency that I could track down. So I put a band-aid on it. I wrote a script to check the services httpd, Mariadb, and php-fpm. If they are down then start them. This script is run every 5 minutes on the server. Until I can find what is killing php-fpm and fix that issue the band-aid will have to do. Sometimes the instance will run for days or weeks without incident, yes I wrote in logging aspects to the script, then other days it will crash several times a day. I also wrote a script to restart all services at midnight (My servers time PDT/PST) the refreshing has helped with some issues that come from running a service via PHP rather than having a proper daemon written in a system development language.
The big take from this discussion is that if the Instance is down when you try to login give it a few minutes and it will likely resolve itself. I have had a few times when the issue was with my VPS provider but they are very reliable so I see no reason for a change. In the future when I have more time to dedicate to the Instance, other than just keeping it up and running. I will chase down these bugs and make the changes necessary to avoid the need for band-aids. Though, that is probably not going to be in the near future. The Instance still has a great up time to down time ration compared to many other Instances I have seen. So I will keep on keeping on.
Oops! My apologies. I was doing what I thought was going to be a routine upgrade to Rogue Project's Friendica Instance when it became not so routine. There were a lot of fixes I had to apply to the update process to get it to take. This took longer than I anticipated. Sorry for not letting everyone know I was going to update and putting the server into maintenance mode before the update. I thought it would not matter and I would be finished before it was even noticed ... it did not work that way in reality. 🙁
Well, despite the burp, and about an hour or more downtime I did get the latest version of Friendica installed. So I hope that you all enjoy my pain 😀. Enjoy the new edition, I hope it brings more fixes than bugs! 😉
Please, feel free to let me know what you do, or do not, like about the upgrade. As long as you do not expect me to do anything about it right away. 😉
I provide a very small Instance due to the limitations of my VPS. I actually have no idea how many active users I could support as I have never had more than 4 or 5 active users at one time in the year that I have been providing this service. I have the user limit cap set for 100 users. I will adjust this as I see how much the VPS can actually handle in practice.
With that said I have continually advised and will reiterate that if you are going to need to take a sabbatical, which is completely understandable, let me know. I want to make sure that there are slots open for new users. So I am constantly deleting inactive accounts. Typically I delete an account that has no use or login for 60 days. I also check profiles to be sure the account is not being used for marketing which is prohibited on this Instance. So if you have to be away for more than 60 days, let me know so your account does not get deleted.
The DOJ announced this 3.5 million document release is it. They won’t be releasing anything else, even though there are still 3 million pages left unreleased. They claim those documents are “non-responsive” or “irrelevant” or fall under one of the exceptions in the statute. (Translation: That’s where the really damning stuff is.)
Okay, I consider myself well read, owning more than 2000 books 😉 and have read countless more. Since I learned to read at 3 years old I have never spent a day without reading. Yet, I had not heard of Connie Willis in more than just passing until you started posting links to her WordPress site. I have enjoyed the site and I have even ordered a few of her books from Thriftbooks. I purchase 'The Best of Connie Willis' and 'Crosstalk'. Do you read her material? If so is there anything you would recommend that I buy?
http://www.longplays.orgPlayed by: xRavenXPLongplay of The Firemen, a obscure action adventure game released in Japan, Europe and Australia by Human Entertai...
Now that I know by what metrics you are using I can actually ask a real question 😁, and comment responsibly.
I do agree with you. As a humanitarian 'how we treat each other' is very important to me. How we treat the planet is very important as well because the planet is our home and currently other options are not available.
I can look at the way our society, especially in the United States currently and be pessimistic. Though, I do not feel that warrants the blanket statement that civilization has made no progress in the last 2000 years. Maybe I am wrong? Let us discuss it and see were we arrive at.
The way I see it. In the days of Socrates (around 400 BC) and for many centuries to come education was a right of the rich, those that could afford the time away from just trying to survive and often monetary commitments as well. In fact not more than a century ago the majority of the world was still illit
Now that I know by what metrics you are using I can actually ask a real question 😁, and comment responsibly.
I do agree with you. As a humanitarian 'how we treat each other' is very important to me. How we treat the planet is very important as well because the planet is our home and currently other options are not available.
I can look at the way our society, especially in the United States currently and be pessimistic. Though, I do not feel that warrants the blanket statement that civilization has made no progress in the last 2000 years. Maybe I am wrong? Let us discuss it and see were we arrive at.
The way I see it. In the days of Socrates (around 400 BC) and for many centuries to come education was a right of the rich, those that could afford the time away from just trying to survive and often monetary commitments as well. In fact not more than a century ago the majority of the world was still illiterate. Taking the time to learn to read and write was just not cost productive to those just trying to survive. I believe today education, globally is far more accessible. There are many programs to help the impoverished gain an education. These programs did not exist 2000 years ago. They exist today mainly by humanitarian efforts. Is this not progress?
In the past access to medicine was strictly available to those that could afford it. Though access to medicine and health care has advanced more quickly than education. We all know of doctors in the past the worked for chickens, and homemade meals quite literally 😉. Yes, medicine and health care have taken a great decline in the United States though other countries that have adopted a one payer system now have the greatest availability to healthcare ever in history, including 2000 years ago. Is that not progress?
It is easy to see the negative affects of our societies as that is what the media pushes at us daily. Though do not forget that today people are fighting for better standards. Today we are making progress in shifting from consumable energy to renewable. We are correcting pollution issues that we have created by our ignorance and greed. For instance was you aware that in the age of the coal fueled steam vessels. These vessels would just dump used ash into the ocean? It was not because they did not care. It just seemed rational to them that there was so much ocean what would a little ash do? We have the answers to that now and we do not approve of such actions. We have people that step up and stand against those in our society that have nefarious intent. Is this not progress?
No, society (global civilization) will never be perfect. Though I do not think it is fair to make a blanket statement like 'there have been no improvements in civilization in 2000 years' because I believe there have been many improvements. Do not get me wrong I can certainly identify with your perspective when I see how some factions of our societies choose to behave. Especially in the United States today. I believe it is important to remember that we have achieved a lot. If we want to continue progressing then we need to address the areas where we still need improvement but not feel defeated in the idea that we have not and thusfore cannot and will not be able to progress. I know you did not explicitly say we cannot progress, yet one could easily implicitly arrive at that conclusion based on your statement, could they not?
I am happy to hear that you value humanitarian ideals. I hope you become less jaded and more active in changing what you can. It is often more than what we believe we have the power to do. For instance just changing our perspective from 'there has been no progress in civilization if 2000 years' to 'there has been progress but we need more and I am going to be a part of that change' will immediately have an effect on your life and what effects your life effects those that are part of your life. Keep in mind that it is not just misery that loves company. Happiness does to. It just depends on what company you want to keep.
Everything/Everyone is on a continuum because LIFE IS EVER CHANGING ~ Sometimes, we stay Stable: Sometimes, we Regress; Sometimes, we Progress. IMO: the Top influencers of the outcome of our ever changing🌍is people's Beliefs &/or Values, of a given generation; such as ~ Are people self centered or focused on the common good? Are people materialistic or content w/the basics/staples of living? Do nations govern to dominate others or to create peaceful relations w/the rest of the🌍?
@SnoopJ @dtmonterrey Is there something similar to a "Foone Death Generator" for that screenshot because it is looking like it will remain applicable for several more years at least
Let's learn and grow. New things are cool!Links 'n' stuff down below. Lots of links.First, the "clean version." Please pass that around.https://youtu.be/Zgxb...
Haven't watched the video yet, but have you ever considered uploading your videos to #peertube? I think if anyone has an audience that would carry over pretty well to Peertube it's you. And one of the biggest issues with Peertube at the moment is a lack of high quality content and creators.
@techindepth27 Are there any sustainable, open servers? Most I know shut down due to missing funding or have very strict limits regarding content and/or video length.
@adlerweb I don't know much about that from a creator POV, but MakerTube and TILVids seem to be decent? Like @janeq said though, the most sustainable instance will always be the selfhosted one.
@techindepth27 @adlerweb @janeq Makertube seems good indeed. I've not much experience with it so far, but helpful mods, limit of (I think) 2gb per day upload and lives also supported. Accepted my regular video file type.
@elliek @techindepth27 @adlerweb @janeq yeah I crosspost my youtube channel to makertube, it’s great. It also supports automatic mirroring from youtube, so I don’t even have to think about it most of the time, it just happens.
@faoluin it totally befuddles me that the same masculinity which creates "don't touch the thermostat" also creates coal rollers. The same person is like "off grid" and "suckling at the teat of The Man".
I think the thing Tech Connections does really well is connect those two halves of that brain.
Oh, my favorite YouTuber who sits in the front of my socks with a great video again! (About 50% through and need to make a break for Formula E in a minute.)
Oh fuck, the second half of this video goes hard. Thank you very much. As an inheritant of German Fascism I appreciate that you are speaking out. Sending love to you and my other friends in the US.
ah, solar. The amazing technology to save the planet, turned into a grift by business bros.
EDIT: OMG THIS VIDEO IS SO MUCH MORE THAN WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE!
This is one of the most important youtube videos I have ever seen. I'm sharing this with everyone I can!
Thank you so much for this video! Thank you!
EDIT 2: Lots of people are liking this reply so let me urge you to make donations and or subscribe to Technology Connections on youtube. This is easily one of the best channels on that platform and he deserves every single dollar he gets. Seriously, just pick a video on something you were never interested in and he'll make you interested.
@mattwilcox @utf_7 a summary instead of a patronizing comment would've been better. Or even ignoring the comment entirely. You have no idea what that person's schedule is like for a 1.5 hour long video.
this is so good, so well argued, so laser-targeted both rhetorically and culturally at the victims of the fascist disinformation machine that the petrochemical industry has constructed, that about halfway through I stopped feeling like "yeah! right on!" and started feeling more like "Gosh I hope Exxon doesn't try to assassinate him."
This is a powerful (pun intended) video. It makes me sad seeing history repeating itself, specifically as a German. I hope your fellow YouTube colleagues chime in to use their reach as well.
I watched about half of this while eating lunch. I gotta say, not only is this one of your best videos ever, this is the clearest explanation of the renewables value proposition I have ever heard.
@vogelchr hallo from your neighborhood country (Tschechien), i hope that by "us" you mean whole Europe, that's what is getting weaker, because you have bot much to complain 😉. It started in Hungary and we have now ultra-populists party leading too in CZ - this time with two true fascist parties in coalition. Germany is far more stable and better! 💪🙏
In regards of your closing statement, you are still too nice about it. Whatever ICE has become resembles the Sturmabteilung which became quite powerful in German in the mid 1920s. It's paramilitary terrorising journalists, opposition and people deemed unworthy.
I'm not certain, if peaceful resistance is going to suffice.
And please get yourself solar cells on your roof. That is an opportunity for multiple videos and rants against dongled inverters and similar bullshit. Thanks:)
one of my key takeaways from the video, aside from what already is stated in the video itself,, is how easily i am personally affected by propaganda and how important keeping my own voice alive is.
for a while now, i felt it was rather useless to put my own views out, and i would stay content thinking/knowing that i am right. and that's one thing a well crafted propaganda intends to achieve, to put enough noise out that people start thinking that they can't change anything.
your videos inspire me to see things more clearly, to not ignore things because i am used to them, and as a consequence to make more informed decisions. and today i was able to see how easy it was to steer me away from some obvious truth.
Amazing video. Absolute aces all around. Some meandering thoughts:
1- The starting discussion around Midwestern values around frugality and investing wisely kept echoing as a corollary of the Vimes Boots Theory of Socieoeconomic Unfairness that I expected it to get mentioned. I'm assuming you know what that is, but that leads right into my next thought...
2- Building off your statement "I kind of already assumed everyone knew what we were trying to do", plainly stating assumptions is one of the most useful tools for solving problems I have found in the past ten years. My day job is supporting some niche technology infrastructure, and when I get pulled into a problem it's because things are seriously, seriously weird. I've had multiple occasions where I've "walked the stack" out loud, and someone else chimed in to correct some component of pile which led to figuring out what was wrong and how to solve it.
I think there's a more advanced theory of mind issue around understanding and addressing the inherent assumptions other people make. I have no i
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Amazing video. Absolute aces all around. Some meandering thoughts:
1- The starting discussion around Midwestern values around frugality and investing wisely kept echoing as a corollary of the Vimes Boots Theory of Socieoeconomic Unfairness that I expected it to get mentioned. I'm assuming you know what that is, but that leads right into my next thought...
2- Building off your statement "I kind of already assumed everyone knew what we were trying to do", plainly stating assumptions is one of the most useful tools for solving problems I have found in the past ten years. My day job is supporting some niche technology infrastructure, and when I get pulled into a problem it's because things are seriously, seriously weird. I've had multiple occasions where I've "walked the stack" out loud, and someone else chimed in to correct some component of pile which led to figuring out what was wrong and how to solve it.
I think there's a more advanced theory of mind issue around understanding and addressing the inherent assumptions other people make. I have no idea how that realization will help make better videos, but I'm excited to see it happen.
2a- While I agree that there's a massive capitalist interest in misleading people, my gut says the bigger challenge is people just... not reexamining assumptions that are years or decades out-of-date. Either because it's cognitively expensive (taking time and mental focus off of day-to-day work, which is also an opportunity capitalist interests are happy to exploit), or because they straight up lack the tools to approach the subject. Maybe that's wrong, and fraud/deception are really the impetus behind wasting time and money on disposable energy.
But I really think the Overestimate Short Term & Underestimate Long Term problem does a lot more heavy lifting in that regard. Humans in survival mode (as so many of us have been for the past 10-40 years) need to focus on the short term, and thinking about the long term is an unaffordable luxury.
3- Tangentially related to cognitive expense/load, I process information better with my eyes than my ears. Showing more of the math when you were running the numbers would have made that easier for me to grasp and process.
Yes, Excel is one of my most-used applications of all time. How did you know?
4- There was a dark, gallows laugh when you talked about the First Amendment rights and the press being declared enemies of the people as Donald Trump is racistly arresting four black journalists. (I'm not laughing because it's funny, I'm laughing because it's an easier emotional outlet than crying)
5- We've lost so much from caring too much about what billionaires and cult leaders say, and caring too little for our own neighbors. I don't know how we solve the big problem. I'll do my part with my skills, like the repair café I'm volunteering at next weekend. We need to build more, better fucking community, damnit.
(sorry for spammy edit/reposting. markdown is being an asshole with list formating)
Great video. You changed my mind on many of the concerns with solar panels I've had before. I have some nitpicks about the details, and some of the arguments don't apply to my country which is quite a bit smaller than US, but overall I'm pretty optimistic about solar now. Thank you!
As for the second part of the video: Yikes, it does look terrifying. I hope y'all can turn this around. Good luck!
hello, your video is a masterpiece. Thanks for making it.
YES your video made a lot sense to me, it made me realize how SO MUCH BETTER solar energy is. I would say I knew it, but you presentation made it become so clear that it made a click in my mind. I'll take more actions in this direction.
I already knew most of the information in this video, but I liked the way he organized it to make comparisons between renewable and consumable energy. A lot of food for thought.
First I saw Luke Miani. Now Alec. Wow! Much respect to you guys. That takes some courage. I understand your frustration. You should not be silent in light of fascism. I wish the best for all of you. I hope it’s the beginning of real change for the good. Greetings from Spain. 🇪🇸
Thanks, Alec. I was drawing with you on the background but once you got to the second part, after the fake ending, I had to stop and look up to you. And even not being American, I think all on your message is somehow valid everywhere. You are brave, and you are right. Paraphrasing Terry Pratchett, thanks for converting your anger into militant decency.
other tech youtuber from the rustbelt/south will condemn the pedo in chief & his regime right? Right?. Like the one on Mastodon who had an issue with Mamdani's inauguration banning rPi/flipper zero devices yet has no issue with banning of women's right for their own bodily autonomy... Doubt it.
thanks for doing this. I’m glad for both the first part, and the part that we wish you didn’t need to do, because we should’ve all been holding everyone accountable sooner.
This is really great content all around. I support solar and wind (and tangentially work in the industry) and this is the most clear description of WHY it is better. Thank you.
This video is a great example of why YouTube remains valuable despite its problematic corporate ownership. Now you just need a condensed version for the people who can't manage the (gulp) feature-film-length runtime.
I still think it's absolutely crazy how cheap solar panels are
I got my 500w panels, new and unused, for 50-60 a piece, without buying in bulk.
That's cheaper than standard plywood. It's literally CHEAPER to build a house out of SOLAR PANELS than it is to build out of low grade PLYWOOD.
They've gone up a little bit in price since but not much, you can still get 500w panels for around 70 euros a piece, example here: solar-outlet.nl/zonnepanelen/
@anthropy The panels themselves are yeah, but due to decisions in politics we do face the fact the energy they produce can become worthless without a battery or a way to control them. So even though I got solar panels already I need to look into a several thousand euro investment to not pay for them being there that is very unlikely to pay back soon... 😛
There is environmental reasons why I will, money just ain't everything with solar in The Netherlands at the moment.
@maruno I built my own 20kWh + 5kW off grid setup, batteries included, for about 2000 euros.
LFP cells cost about 40-100 per kWh, you just have to add a BMS, inverter and some cables.
The expensive part is people. Same goes for the panels; 5kw of panels is 500€, but getting them put on your roof and cabled and all that costs (sometimes tens of) thousands, because there aren't a lot of people who do it and they want a high profit margin.
@maruno To even go further in this: getting a second hand electric car as your battery is even cheaper!
I got a 2013 Nissan Leaf for about 4k half a year ago, 24kWh worth batteries included, less than 70k KM on the odometer, 120KM range.
and I've driven thousands of kilometers to work and other placed in that thing already, so calculating what I saved in gasoline, assuming 6k km, which is about 300-500L gasoline, assuming 1.80€ per liter, is 540-900€, so I'm 1/4-1/2 break even!
@maruno "wait but 4k is more than 1k" correct! but I got a good car, you can get those Leafs and similar electric cars for around 2k if you look around a little, and it already got the BMS, charger, etc etc included; you're buying a complete package that you can just start using. If you compare that to having a premade 24kwh powerwall (~2500) installed by a professional (~5k+), then it is indeed cheaper to buy a second hand electric car.
@anthropy Simply answered: my house is not off grid nor do I want that. But just getting this professionally done, for sanity but also following guidelines for insurance etc. blows up the costs. Electricians are not cheap to start with. 😛
@maruno It's honestly purely the electrician and convenience that really drives up the costs actually!
If you want a grid tie battery it's even easier, you can buy those plug-in ones that you can plug into any wall socket for around 1k, 2.5kwh (random example from the top of google search results: homewizard.com/nl/shop/plug-in… ) of course the more easy you make it for yourself, the more you pay 😛 convenience costs a lot of money, especially for these kinds things.
@anthropy @maruno My budget to install 8kWp on my roof in Belgium when I bought the panels in 2023: 4K€ panels, 2K€ supports, screws, cables etc. 1.5K€ inverter and at least 50 hours of my time (not finished yet). Today the panels part could be reduced to 2K, but the energy policy makes injected energy worthless, so I have to account for a battery for when my EV isn't charging. Panels are cheap but we're often forgetting the other equipment and work needed to install them.
@aris @maruno Batteries are also cheap if you know where to source them, same goes for the inverter; 1.5k sounds like a fancy one, I got two offgrid inverters each capable of 6kW+ for less than 500 a piece, and roughly 15-20kWh worth LiFePo4 cells for 800 ish, a BMS for 250.
I'm guessing my situation made them easier to install though, as I'm putting them down flat on my carport with clamps on the sides, my 5kWp took roughly 5-10 hours. It honestly depends on your situation.
@anthropy @maruno I wanted SMA (5kW dual input single phase) but it was a mistake. Where would you recommend buying batteries in Europe? The prices I found were around 300€/kWh so way more expensive than what you tell me, but I haven't done thorough research yet (I wanted to study my overnight power requirements first)
@aris @maruno I actually source them straight from China, because they are the king of LiFePo4; in 2012 ish western manufacturers choose to go with nickel-cobalt chemistries, which are far more expensive, because at the time they had a much bigger capacity per weight. These days they're very similar.
To add, China tried to flood the western markets with cheap EVs but got held back by regulations/taxes so they have a huge oversupply of these batteries and sell them for dirt cheap
@aris @maruno You do have to look around for reputable sellers, because of course the cheapest ones are also cheaply built, but there are very good ones that are also used in cars and such. I'm a bit busy / between things right now but if you look around a little you should be able to find very good *and* affordable ones
@anthropy @maruno Since I would be buying separate batteries and BMS in that case, that requires research and knowing perfectly what I do. But the price difference seems worth it, I'll delay this until I have to to work on it. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@aris @maruno As long as you have a BMS that is appropriate for the load (overspecced but configurable is okay but make sure to configure it to turn off at the maximum load), it should be fine. It's also worth noting that if you have a low voltage pack (e.g 24V in my case) you have to get really thick cables to carry the amps (48V might be better in that sense).
I'll try see if I can find some good cell manufacturer examples later. For the BMS I personally use Daly.
@anthropy @aris Do take into account your time and what you are getting into, that it's still not finished is an indicator how much worth it can be.
But also I quite frankly find it a bit dangerous what you are preaching to just get any random stuff from China without approvals. 😛 Consider what risk you are taking and comfortable with.
@maruno @aris The LiFePo4 cells they're selling here for 300 are sourced from china for <100, they're the same cells, you just gotta know which ones to get.
My system is working, batteries and all, and sure I could and want to upgrade it further, but that doesn't mean it can't be something relatively easy to deploy.
@anthropy @aris You know very well I am not talking about base materials such as the LiFePo4 here, which the average consumer shouldn't even know. But what it is put in, it's certification and the certification, safety and requirements of the full installation and what you are connecting it to.
You do you, but mains and high voltage SC electricity is not a toy. 😛
@maruno @aris I don't like your condescending tone, and honestly don't care to fight about this right now as I have better things to do.
But I presume that someone knowledgeable enough to have been working on their own setup already, is capable of handling low voltage DC lithium batteries.
@anthropy @maruno I think the warning and words of caution are fair. These batteries can cause fire and if after inspection (if me and my family is still alive) the experts say my no-name hacked battery setups caused it, I may find myself homeless. That's why despite the margins I may end up buying from an European seller. I need to put more thoughts into it.
@aris @maruno and that's entirely fair- I'm not saying not to be cautious, but I find it a little much to say that neither of us know anything about this and that I'm "preaching" for unsafe setups, when I've explicitly said I'd have to look into what good cells are later.
Any setup can cause a fire, and I've seen some extremely scary thin wiring and connections in premade bat boxes that are "okay because we probably don't pull that much amps" (youtube is full of these). The key is research tbh.
@aris @maruno Okay I've finished my long working day and I looked around a little.
I decided to be lazy and let Gemini Deep Research gather some intel on the subject, it seems to align with what I remember from my own research: gemini.google.com/share/3be891…
One thing that I can immediately agree with from there is that nkon.nl is a very good european-based supplier, with cells in the exact price range I mentioned: nkon.nl/rechargeable/lifepo4/p…
@maruno Also sorry if I came across rough earlier. I was busy and didn't have the mental capacity to get into some debate about the safety of things, and also didn't like the seeming implication that I didn't know what I was doing (I've been doing this for many years and definitely did my research and talked with experts in the field).
If you do want to have an openminded discussion about it I'm all open to it. But.. please don't just berate me with assumptions, it honestly feels condescending.
The first 3/4 or whatever was mostly stuff I kind of knew - not the specific figures and examples you give - exactly how much more energy would be available just from converting fields growing corn for ethanol fuel into solar fields, for example.
And then the second part. Fantastic. Blistering. Thank you and from Canada I wish you and all Americans of good conscience success and safety.
that was fucking great. I wish half of the influencers had the conviction you do to put their neck out. I still think a distressingly large amount of democrats are really just smiling fascist and that's why they continue to vote for and fund trump's stuff, but you may be right on voting lesser evil just one more time.
I'm glad to see intelligent Americans react to to USA government's actions on its own citizens, a small sample of what it subjected the rest of the world to for decades.
Let's learn and grow. New things are cool!Links 'n' stuff down below. Lots of links.First, the "clean version." Please pass that around.https://youtu.be/Zgxb...
I've followed your channel for a while now and I have to say that this is probably your best video so far! From a European perspective it makes me very happy to hear people speak out about what's happening in your country. Thank you!
holy shit it is so good to hear this from you. I feel like your politics have always been so clear but hearing you say these things so clearly is still like the opposite of gaslighting. It feels so obvious to me how bad things are getting, and hearing someone whose other opinions I trust saying this with their full chest is lifegiving. Thank you.
I am a longtime follower who also always felt a special connection. Not only because of the interest in technology but because I also own a NeXT shirt (and the computer with which it came).
You open so many people’s eyes. This time it’s more important than ever. Even if it seems long, every minute of the video should be watched. All the way.
During the energy crisis of the 70s Sweden went all-in on nuclear. During that period, home owners were told/incentivised (unsure) that they should also throw out their oil/coal/wood furnaces and go all-electric since it was and was going to be _so_ much cheaper. We built out a lot of electrical direct heating back then.
This has given us an amazing situation now. We're already big on heat pumps, giving us 4-5 times better efficiency compared to direct heating, and going solar is just to hook it all up since everyting is already electric.
Thank you so much for this video. It gave me a bit of faith back into Americans. Let's not forget, everything happening in the US, is also coming to Europe.
So a few clarifications nobody will ever read: 1. Hydrocarbons are dead trees which are renewed but very slowly. The tree is the best solar panel with integrated battery. Just takes say 100.000 years to renew. 2. You cannot replace organic energy with metal energy, because you cannot create metal from scratch without coal, oil and gas; and recycling it is only partly a solution. 3. Nuclear (and fusion) is just boiling the planet with atoms instead. 4. The real problem is food.
Couldn't do 90 minutes, but plenty of great info. Realistically, if communities don't push their local officials to reserve a chunk of land for solar, instead of selling it off to developers for AI or PUDs, then residents are stuck having to pay the costs individually to privatized money hungry utility companies and opportunists slinging panels.
Separate the grid into a residential circuit (solar) public owned utility and commercial circuit (whatever the fuck they want) privatized utility and the cost won't be so prohibitive for the average person. When the community needs more energy it buys it from the private circuit, when it has more, it sells it back. Individuals all doing this on their own, negates the very benefit of living/participating in a community.
I just finished watching all the way to the very end of this video. I have a lot of thoughts, but at least the instance I am on has a character limit.
TLDR: I think this is a great video that is very informative and brings up a lot of good points especially at the end.
About the partisan political section in my experience there is a lot of dehumanization and not trying to have empathy for other people going on. I will do my best to get the people I know to think about others.
Alec, thank you for this. Very strong and clear points. Came for the solar, stayed for the politics (I know, directly connected). It's the pinacle of 8 years watching Technology Connections videos. Trully well done 👏
look, I'm just a limey watching in horror at what's going on over there. I wish was I there to give you all a hug. you'll get through this and when the time comes I hope there's repercussions for those involved. I'm sorry that you're going through it though.
I don't know if you saw, but ProPublica wrote up the story of how oil companies bought up a local Ohio newspaper and used it to print lies about solar: propublica.org/article/ohio-mo… In case anyone needs further proof of how dirty the fight has been.
A retired gas industry executive, a shadowy “grassroots” group and a controversial media company are spreading misinformation while turning residents against a proposed solar farm — and each other.
Wow, thank you so much for this video! You could have just continued doing your usual "techy" videos and not loose a significant amount of subscribers but you decided to speak up instead. It is just admirable.
Thanks so much for making this great video! First, I was not sure I would watch it comletely b/c it appeared a bit long but every minute was worth it! 😃
Panels are very cheap, but a decent charge controller and inverter isn't, and apparently inverters don't last forever - I've only had mine for a few years, so it's too early to tell how reliable they are. Replacing inverters may be a "running cost" of the system if you have to use AC.
For that reason, I have been trying to find as many DC-powered products as possible, but it's quite hard to find non-IT appliances. The only real DC kitchen devices you can get a fridges. There are NO DC-powered cooking equipment. The most powerful DC kettle I have found is 24V and 300W, which isn't great. Everything else is just low power, small equipment.
Someone in the US is trying to make a battery-powered electric oven, so people can use them on 120V systems. I bet it is phenomenally expensive!
wow... with two words, the issue is simplified from seemingly complicated to dead simple. we don't need disposable forks, we don't need disposable packaging, we don't need disposable fashion and we don't need disposable energy.
the term also sheds light on why trying to reconstitute the products of combusting petroleum just feels so odd - it's like digging the plastic fork out of the landfill the next time you need one.
not all the way through the video yet but man, that term alone is transformational.
This is a long video and well worth it to watch the whole thing, but if you want to see @TechConnectify absolutely unload about everything going on in uspol, jump to 1:16:35 mark!
curious what it your take on the airborn wind turbines? I recently saw one in a video and wasn't sure if it is AI or not, but quick search showed that it is a real technology and it looks WEIRD
This was certainly NOT on my Bingo Card... I was watching the video till the fake ending and was like: "What could possibly be coming after this? Maybe some extras about other energy forms?" When the mild mannered Mid-Westerner does a half hour rant on _Ronald McDonald_ is when you know that things are not well on the other side of the pond
Great video, even if I did almost turn it off at the fake end. Personally I've always been in favour of CapEx and against scheduled OpEx because I hate having the possibility of unknown future charges. I want to do it myself!
Keep up the good work 👏
Adds: USA politics are a cesspit right now. Your voice is heard.
I dearly need to sleep but despite me not even being in the US, it sure as hell made me happy to have watched the entire video through, second ending included
wow, this is amazing. I did not realize I had fallen for some propaganda here. Even with that, I built out an off grid setup for my new home. With this info I'm really looking forward to no energy bills for the next 30+ years.
I've been dealing with finding out people I follow and subscribe to turned out to be terrible quite a bit the past few years. Your rant was welcomed reassurance you're ok to associate with.
This was powerful (no pun intended). I was already sold on solar energy and battery storage, so I expected to be a happy member of the choir being preached to. Then the second part dropped, and it was so... cathartic.
Looking in from Europe, all I can say is well said. I hope your words can fuel the change the US and the world needs. How can it be that we are able to pump billions into things like border protection, thugs, "AI"-Bullshit, but people can't get together and spend that money on energy independence ONCE?! It's maddening and so good to hear it articulated like this.
I thought this video was already perfect before the fake ending happened, but everything that followed; Words fail me.
Alec, thank you for saying what you said. It shouldn't need to be you that said it. It's awful that things have become what they are. But what you said is what so many of your fellow countrymen already know. You've given them a voice.
I just hope we don't make the same mistake on my side of the Atlantic.
I can't comment on YouTube so I will put it here: Yes boss man. But how will America control the world without oil? Priorities much? And you are saying that capitalism isn't the solution to human existence?! Blasphemy! Great video by the way, I think the same. Also, is a bit funny that you think you can vote your way our of this, both sides are just as bad, my friend, if you only knew how bad things really are in politics.
as an anarchist, i'll obviously disagree about the effectiveness of just voting blue.. but damn it's good to hear the truth about the republican regime being spoken loud, clear, and angry. ✊
To talk about the technical part only, I would be curious to hear your position on nuclear power, because when it comes to “building once and then extracting energy at low cost for a long time” that's where it comes in. It takes up less space (so we might as well use the corn land for forests and nature reserves, it would be better than solar farms, even if solar farms are better than that corn), requires even fewer materials to be extracted, has a much longer lifespan, causes less pollution, fewer direct and indirect deaths, places fewer constraints on the grid (we keep the same format of a few powerful centralized plants that distribute energy to the whole country), no storage problems (batteries are better than burning oil, but not needing them in gigantic quantities at the grid scale is even better, and we can use the materials elsewhere, or extracting even less of them), very small amounts of waste that are relatively easy to manage (much more so than fossil fuels; for renewables, we'll have to see, but even when it comes to recycling, limiting the amount of thing
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To talk about the technical part only, I would be curious to hear your position on nuclear power, because when it comes to “building once and then extracting energy at low cost for a long time” that's where it comes in. It takes up less space (so we might as well use the corn land for forests and nature reserves, it would be better than solar farms, even if solar farms are better than that corn), requires even fewer materials to be extracted, has a much longer lifespan, causes less pollution, fewer direct and indirect deaths, places fewer constraints on the grid (we keep the same format of a few powerful centralized plants that distribute energy to the whole country), no storage problems (batteries are better than burning oil, but not needing them in gigantic quantities at the grid scale is even better, and we can use the materials elsewhere, or extracting even less of them), very small amounts of waste that are relatively easy to manage (much more so than fossil fuels; for renewables, we'll have to see, but even when it comes to recycling, limiting the amount of things to recycle and the frequency of recycling is still beneficial), allowing for significant fuel recycling (even if this is not done today, it is feasible and would transform a few centuries of reserves into millennia—admittedly, it cannot be said to be renewable, but when we see the progress made in two centuries, it still leaves room to find other solutions, whether it be the improvement of renewables to the point where they catch up with the advantages of actual nuclear power, or nuclear fusion).
In short, superior in almost every respect, except for complexity (but complexity that can be managed, it already is, and in terms of safety, nuclear power is to energy what aviation is to transportation: high dangers, but low risks thanks to controls and quality, and even lower risks than anything else right now).
(and I already agree that solar and wind energy are pretty good replacements for oil and gas, I’m not saying that we shouldn’t use them. Just that they aren’t the best we can do in the 21st century to produce electricity, from what I know, so why not do even better thing when we can)
@breizh uranium is neither renewable nor free to harvest at low operating costs. nuclear power is an uniquely insane upfront investment & constant operating expenses and a lot of societal operating expenses to safely store the nuclear waste. until such time it can be safely transmuted. That is also a huge investment to develop and scale that technology.
the last time nuclear power was built it was only possible because the cold war needed the technology to be dual use otherwise it would have just been building nukes to collect dust somewhere.
“you can’t take a lithium atom and turn it into iron”. Why the hate for late-stage stellar fusion? Just imagine if we had small electronics powered by silicon fusion…
14:56 is a point that gets understated quite a lot. I find that many people that oppose renewables have a strange libertarian ideals about the market and don't seem to get that electric cars would open them to more energy markets. To use their world view.
Thank you for plainly and passionately saying the things that need to be said, and for setting a powerful example for those of us who feel as deeply about these things as you do. I have more admiration for your courage and conviction than I can readily articulate right now.
I am not completely through your video but have an interesting videolink to the recycling problem. It's completely in German but it shows a process to completely separate all layers of a solar panel to get pure materials for new panels.
Just wanted to say, watched most of this video, absolutely loved it. Like I already knew most of this stuff, but even more than the bit of added detail, the way that you framed it, the explanation you gave, and the fact that you even said at the end "I'm saying this because this way convinces people."
...I am definitely going to be using this exact way of framing the issue way more often, probably with the added fact that acquiring oil has required a lot of warfare, so we are literally just asking that the money going into warfare and environmental response get put into long-term energy-security instead.
Oh my, I've finally got to watch this video. I'm glad you did it. It's great, it's rebellious and has anger in it. Any sane person should be felling angry about is happening in your country right now. As you say, everyone has to speak about it. Everything is political, only those that abuse politics for their own benefits are the one that wants you out of it.
thanks so much for the video, particularly the lather half. I do feel the need to comment on the section on photovoltaics recycling though. I'm far from an expert on this, but I do have the privilege of research proposals in this field crossing my desk every now and then and having occasional contact with the wonderful people at Fraunhofer ISE, among others.
For everything except the aluminium frame, recycling is significantly complicated by the fact that the adhesive used is a resin which can't easily be molten/dissolved. Right now the state of the art is to just shred the glass with everything adhered to it and use it as concrete fill. The one exception ist that there's a bit of a scramble to capture the silver contained in the solder of panels manufactured during the first boom years of photovoltaics which are starting to age out, but as I understand that comes at the cost of wasting the other materials.
Theres lots of cool research in this field: how to manufacture for recycling, how to melt the cells and electrolyze the impurities out if the silicon, etc.
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thanks so much for the video, particularly the lather half. I do feel the need to comment on the section on photovoltaics recycling though. I'm far from an expert on this, but I do have the privilege of research proposals in this field crossing my desk every now and then and having occasional contact with the wonderful people at Fraunhofer ISE, among others.
For everything except the aluminium frame, recycling is significantly complicated by the fact that the adhesive used is a resin which can't easily be molten/dissolved. Right now the state of the art is to just shred the glass with everything adhered to it and use it as concrete fill. The one exception ist that there's a bit of a scramble to capture the silver contained in the solder of panels manufactured during the first boom years of photovoltaics which are starting to age out, but as I understand that comes at the cost of wasting the other materials.
Theres lots of cool research in this field: how to manufacture for recycling, how to melt the cells and electrolyze the impurities out if the silicon, etc. But were still pretty far away from having anything like a circular economy for photovoltaics.
I have been following you for many years but only ubtil now did I feel the urge and need to reach out and say something. I truly admire what you said and the way you stand up for others.
So I finally got a chance to watch this and…wow, I’ll just say 💯 on the ending, and I have nothing but respect for you being willing to go all out like that.
I really appreciate pushing the perspective of “one and done” for every gallon of fuel we burn.
One thing I wanted to note, while ICE engines (not those guys 😂) burn fuel with near 100% efficiency, my understanding is a car motor actually loses something around 80% of that energy through heat, so it’s even WORSE.
I feel can't find the right words to formulate a comment that would express my sympathies towards you, your cause and your way or fighting for that cause, in an adequate way. I'll try anyway.
As a European, I'd be honored if you moved here, but you're probably too much of a Midwesterner to let Trump take your country from you. You remind me of what I imagine Bernie Sanders would be like if he was 50 years younger and did a "I don't need a comment, I need you to vote!" video.
Thank you for speaking up! As a german who knows our dark and scary history I really hope the US can turn itself around! And to my fellow germans I have to say: "Please let us stop these far right faschist AFD people from gaining more power!"
Uhm. New here and don't know how to work it yet. I dlp most of the good things. You've knocked out so much good stuff, but this was sharp. Made me sign up. I couldn't not; it was so kind and thoughtful. Also, in on the midwest angle.
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this was amazing.
im leaving these here because the video made me remember these and ive put in some effort to find them again. theyre from the french greens in the european parliament, i think
I thought I was watching a solar panel video, which was surprisingly fantastic the whole way through. I have 1,740 watts on my sailboat that I live on, so I didn't need convincing, but I feel better knowing that my lithium bank is perfectly recyclable.
And then, the video "ended." I was Jack Nicholson-smiling for thirty straight minutes and had a hand ✊🏻 raised. I was just expecting to find out how photovoltaics were somehow just heat pumps like every other invention ever.
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"Minneapolis isn’t “responding” to ICE anymore. Minneapolis is organizing to OUTLAST ICE. After weeks of escalated federal immigration enforcement in Minnesota, the Twin Cities are doing something the rest of the country keeps saying it wants but rarely builds: an everyday, neighborhood-level infrastructure that makes state violence harder to pull off in silence.
Here’s what that infrastructure looks like on the ground: Signal chats that spread sightings in minutes, people walking around with whistles, neighbors showing up fast when someone’s being cornered, and ordinary folks choosing “I’m watching” as a civic identity.
In a Jacobin interview, Minneapolis organizer Aru Shiney-Ajay describes a staggering density of participation, including neighborhood chats reaching “over 4 percent” of residents and rapid-response patrol chats that hit 1,000 people in a single neighborhood by late morning. That matters because ICE thrives on logistics and isolation. You cannot “c
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"Minneapolis isn’t “responding” to ICE anymore. Minneapolis is organizing to OUTLAST ICE. After weeks of escalated federal immigration enforcement in Minnesota, the Twin Cities are doing something the rest of the country keeps saying it wants but rarely builds: an everyday, neighborhood-level infrastructure that makes state violence harder to pull off in silence.
Here’s what that infrastructure looks like on the ground: Signal chats that spread sightings in minutes, people walking around with whistles, neighbors showing up fast when someone’s being cornered, and ordinary folks choosing “I’m watching” as a civic identity.
In a Jacobin interview, Minneapolis organizer Aru Shiney-Ajay describes a staggering density of participation, including neighborhood chats reaching “over 4 percent” of residents and rapid-response patrol chats that hit 1,000 people in a single neighborhood by late morning. That matters because ICE thrives on logistics and isolation. You cannot “community statement” your way out of a federal dragnet. You have to interrupt the machine where it eats and sleeps and hides.
That’s why Minneapolis didn’t just stay defensive. It went on offense. Activists have targeted the “pillars” that let ICE operate like an occupying force: hotels, rental cars, corporate partners, the quiet, normal places where repression refuels.
A local campaign that pushed a Hilton-branded hotel to refuse service to ICE, triggering national blowback and a corporate scramble. What makes this smart isn’t the spectacle. It’s the leverage. A regime can ignore outrage. It can’t ignore friction inside the supply chain that keeps its agents moving.
Then came the proof-of-concept flex: the January 23 “ICE Out” general strike day in Minneapolis and beyond, called by unions and community groups as a refusal of business as usual under terror.
This was a muscle-building exercise: can we coordinate, can we hold lines, can we protect each other, can we make the city ungovernable for people who think they can hunt humans here? This is what resistance looks like when it grows up. Not just rage. Routines. Not just protest. Infrastructure.
And that’s the real exportable lesson: if you want ICE out of your city, don’t wait for permission from pundits or politicians. Build networks that make disappearance difficult, complicity expensive, and solidarity automatic." #abolishice #Minneapolis #maga #fascism #antifascism
Last year I sold my house and land and bought a second hand 28 foot (8.5 meter) camper. I live in an RV Resort (so they call it). It was necessary to get by in our horrible economy and actually have money to do anything besides pay bills. I live by myself and I am very comfortable in this lifestyle. Though I will admit that I have plans to possibly get a larger camper down the road.
A few days ago my propane ran out again. Since winter started I only get around 6 days per tank when running my furnace. I wish I had bought larger tanks. I will have to upgrade before next winter that is for sure. My new schedule makes it more difficult for me to refill my tanks in the middle of the week. So I have to be more organized and adapt. I just went two days with no heat. It was not unbearable though it was not comfortable either. The worst part was no hot water! I am glad I have propane again. It is nice to be warm
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Last year I sold my house and land and bought a second hand 28 foot (8.5 meter) camper. I live in an RV Resort (so they call it). It was necessary to get by in our horrible economy and actually have money to do anything besides pay bills. I live by myself and I am very comfortable in this lifestyle. Though I will admit that I have plans to possibly get a larger camper down the road.
A few days ago my propane ran out again. Since winter started I only get around 6 days per tank when running my furnace. I wish I had bought larger tanks. I will have to upgrade before next winter that is for sure. My new schedule makes it more difficult for me to refill my tanks in the middle of the week. So I have to be more organized and adapt. I just went two days with no heat. It was not unbearable though it was not comfortable either. The worst part was no hot water! I am glad I have propane again. It is nice to be warm 😀. It cost me $120.00 USD to get these two 20# tanks (no there were none with the camper when I bought it). The 40# tanks I intend to upgrade to are $140.00 USD each, that is going to suck, but I will get by. With the 40# tanks I will be able to go 4 weeks (about) before having to ride into town to refill which will be great. That is a not going to happen right now though. Winter will be over in another month to a month and a half here so it makes little sense to upgrade now. And with the repairs I just had to put into my Jeep it is not in the budget either. In the spring, summer and fall I only use about a tank every few months for hot water and cooking. So it will not be such a big deal.
"... Echoing the reported opinion of former US secretary of state Rex Tillerson, Lebowitz thinks the biggest danger of Trump is that he is a moron. “Everyone says he is crazy – which maybe he is – but the scarier thing about him is that he is stupid. You do not know anyone as stupid as Donald Trump. You just don’t.” ..."
That's who "Rebellicans" cheated into presidential office per voter suppression, disenfranchisement, gerrymandering & other fraudulent methods.
A self-acclaimed master of deals looked into a mirror for thrills. Tried to make us believe that with all his mischiefs he earned more than mistrust and chills.
Using it that way is disrespectful! As with many of our Laws it's use being twisted. In this case, the Supreme Court held that flying it upside down is an expression of "free speech".
However the actual Law says (without being taken from context):
"U.S. Flag Code (4 U.S.C. § 8(a)), the flag should never be displayed with the union (the stars) down "except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property".
I did my tours and I know what the flag means. Please indulge me for a moment? So far it is only a dozen directly, a lot more indirectly. How many people does ICE have to murder in cold blood before we can consider our country in dire distress? Just so I know when it will be appropriate of course.
@unusnemo I'm not only talking about ICE! I'm talking about the inhumanity of letting USAID food and supplies rot on the docks and people dying. The lawlessness of deporting people and breaking up families. To say nothing about blowing up boats and killing people with no evidence of their criminality, or destroying medical research, firing thousands of government workers who helped people.
We are in EXTREME distress NOW! A felon, a thief is robbing us blind and destroying our culture!
@unusnemo Unus ... laws and rules are made up of words and have meaning. Some people think it's cute to pervert the meaning to show how cute or clever they are. U.S. Flag Code (4 U.S.C. § 8(a)) is not difficult to read and figure out what it means.
SC Justice Alito "allowed his wife" to fly our flag upside down at their house. It is their right but it is disrespectful.
It's the same for others who think flying the flag upside down is clever. It's not!
You misunderstand me completely. I do not think it is clever or cute at all. I think it is entirely appropriate. As I believe our country is in dire distress. I am prepared to agree to disagree. I am good with that. I hope you are as well.
Do not get me wrong. I believe all the points you have outlined are serious. Though when I see the Spanish taking on the roles of the Jews, and I feel like I am living in Anne Frank's diary. I get very disturbed. Just what was I fight for? Certainly not this.
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