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I put black oil sunflower seed and water out for the birds and squirrels every day. My neighbor used to put out unsalted peanuts plus or minus hulled sunflower seed on his balcony, but recently stopped. Some pigeons took up in his roof and they cause all kinds of mayhem, so no more peanuts for now.

Which means they're all at my place. 😆 I just sent him a picture of TEN pigeons on my patio. It's getting to be Hitchcock levels of pigeons out there in the morning. Luckily I find them funny.

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in reply to Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!

My question for YOU, Mastodon, is if it's a murder of crows, what is the crime involved with pigeons?

#polls #wildlife #birds

  • Larceny (6%, 6 votes)
  • Loitering (68%, 65 votes)
  • Vandalism (14%, 14 votes)
  • Other (please say) (10%, 10 votes)
95 voters. Poll end: 3 days ago

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in reply to Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!

really there's no crime involved. People who have a problem with pigeons just can't handle how handsome Bert is when he sings about his favorite bird.

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in reply to Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!

well, they're not so much guilty as fearful. People do eat pigeons, which has provoked some squabbling.

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in reply to llewelly

@llewelly
Yes, and aside from their amusement value one reason I put up with them is it's not their fault they're here. As I'm sure you know, humans domesticated and then abandoned the rock dove. If they're crapping everywhere in cities, it's our fault.

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in reply to Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!

an Abandonment of Pigeons because humans did them wrong. They were abandoned as soon as communications technology made them obsolete. Poor birds are the equivalent of pet dogs and cats tossed out into the woods.

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in reply to Shantell Powell

@Shanmonster I saw this mentioned earlier in the thread. I had no idea! What were the original birds that they were domesticated from?
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@hosford42 @Shanmonster
Rock doves, which is why pigeon nests look so ridiculous. In nature they nest on rocky ledges and only need a few sticks to stop eggs from rolling over the edge. But if you look at the kind of nests they make in cities, it's funny and then kind of sad.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_dov…

in reply to Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!

@Shanmonster

"Rock doves have been domesticated for several thousand years, giving rise to the domestic pigeon. They may have been domesticated as long as 5,000 years ago."

That's a long history! I had no idea. I thought pigeons were their own species, and people happened to keep them as pets sometimes, kind of like parakeets.

After thousands of years living among humans, I'm not surprised at all that they adapted to our living environments, like cats and dogs. I bet the ones that survive in the city are way more adaptable in their behavior than wild rock doves. There's pretty strong selection pressure in that direction for any animal that lives around human-generated complexity and chaos. Every time there's been a mass extinction event in the past, new capabilities emerged when life finally recovered. I bet this coming age will be full of very clever and adaptable creatures, and pigeons will still be around.

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