I’m still on the fence about Corbyn and Sultana’s #YourParty.
There is so much baggage with Corbyn and Sultana seemed to jump the gun on announcing the party, which got it off to a very bad start in many people’s eyes,
But that doesn’t take away from the fact #Labour under #Starmer is a far cry from what people thought they voted for.
The points Corbyn makes here are entirely right and will resonate with many.
tribunemag.co.uk/2025/09/labou…
Labour Is Paving the Path to Fascism
As Labour embraces anti-migrant rhetoric, Jeremy Corbyn argues that the government is demonising vulnerable people to distract from its domestic failures.tribunemag.co.uk
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in reply to Juggling With Eggs • • •“Scapegoating vulnerable people has always been a deliberate ploy by the government to distract from its own domestic failures.
Today, it might be #asylum seekers.
Tomorrow, it could be #disabled people.
The next day, #trans people.
Whatever the minority, we are witnessing the demonisation of vulnerable people, to the grave detriment of us all.”
#Starmer’s #Labour government has laid itself wide open to these criticisms by #Corbyn.
Because it has turned against each of these groups.
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in reply to Juggling With Eggs • • •If #Starmer thinks he can demonise the same minorities that #Reform and the #Tories have been kicking for over a decade and get away with it, he’s deluded.
Those who enjoy bashing minorities will continue to vote for the full fat version of rightwing parties.
Those that don’t, will no longer vote #Labour.
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in reply to Juggling With Eggs • • •There is not a version of this, where it all ends well by a notionally centrist party donning the clothes (flags) and policies (hating on minorities) of the Far Right.
It ends badly not only for that notionally centrist party (Labour) but also for the entire population of this country.
We need strong, ethically grounded leadership to reinvigorate democracy and address inequality and climate change.
Anything less and we’re all toast.
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in reply to Juggling With Eggs • • •And I’m honestly not sure who that much needed ethically grounded leader is right now…
Many are putting their hat in the ring:
- Corbyn and Sultana
- Davey
- Ramsay and Chowns
- Polanski
But we need someone (or a couple) who can unite the Left.
The political system that we’ve known is broken…and the electorate can clearly see that.
So do we wait and slide towards the fascism of Trump’s US or does something very un-British need to happen?
Richard Michael Blaber
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Well, the UK is never going to have that as long as it has a monarchy with its thumb on the House of Lords and the House of Commons via the Tories. I can't say that those who voted for "Workable Brexit" Starmer didn't know what they were getting before they voted for him.
The UK quite possibly has entered the duopoly phase of its concept of "ruling party" and "party opposite" whereby the only way to effectively unseat the ruling party is to vote for the party opposite because voting for any other party would leave the ruling party in place. Welcome to your Americanization, UK.
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I don’t see Starmer as the ‘safe pair of hands’ he was sold to the electorate as. Am I alone in that?
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in reply to Juggling With Eggs • • •You probably should be.
Compare and contrast to Johnson, Kemi Badenoch, Jenrick, Farage.
I didn't notice that the selling proposition was that. though.
More of repair, honesty, competence, and not being a total shit.
The Labour Party does have a rather wide range to accommodate and hold together, and we do not have a Presidential system.
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The Tories and Reform membership don’t rate competence at all…hence the shower you mention. For them it’s all about waging the ongoing election campaign, even when in office.
But that doesn’t by default make Starmer ultra competent.
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in reply to Juggling With Eggs • • •Very tangential, and rather agricultural.
Starmer occupied high office as DPP, and did it, I think, quite well. That's a demonstration of competence in office.
He also lead a Party to an election success.
Now you may argue that the Tories had disintegrated tot he point they put themselves out of power, or dived for cover as their shit hit their fans, but that is orthogonal.
I'm for bed now, though, so leave it for now please.
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Davey was a government minister in the coalition government…during which he managed to completely ignore the brewing Post Office scandal which was part of his brief.
Corbyn has been leader of the Opposition and lost two elections.
Ramsay completely untested…and not the charismatic half of the current Green Party leadership.
Sultana and Chowns also untested.
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in reply to Juggling With Eggs • • •Um, tangent?
(I've been watching the Post Office/Fujitsu thing since Computer Weekly started reporting it. IIRC Thatcher's lot floated it off out of government supervision. All the shareholders appear to have been lied to.)
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Apologies I think our posts crossed. I assumed you were talking about Starmer’s competence in comparison to the other political leaders I’d mentioned.
Steven Heywood
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No, not at all. The unforced errors are his own. The withdrawal of Winter fuel payments was a gift to Reform which circulated its freezing pensioners memes round social media before the first cold snap. Austerity 2.0 is neither necessary nor a winning strategy in a country hobbled by threadbare services and even more threadbare local economies. Cosplaying Theresa May on immigration alienates his own constituency and will never win over a constituency that prefers sincere bigotry to the ersatz copy being cynically played out.
As I've mentioned on other occasions the problem we have is that after the cataclysmic experience of the Brexit years, Johnson's shambolic circus, the lettuce days and the final disintegration of the Conservative Party we've forgotten what ordinary not being very good at politics looks like and mistake not being a howling shit show for being a safe pair of hands.
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Corbyn is spot on in his writing here…but will people see past his baggage to vote for a party co-led by him when he will almost certainly be an octogenarian by the next election?
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I guess it depends whether you think the co-leadership model works.
Does it increase the current Green Party appeal across genders or make them seem like part timers, when it’s a full time job?
There is nothing to suggest that Corbyn is physically/mentally frail in the way that Biden is…but will he leave enough oxygen for Sultana to expand her profile in the public eye?
I guess it’s a British version of Bernie Sanders and AOC. Does that work either side of the pond?