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Do any of you have a good source of financial news that isn't too right wing and explains things like the Intel deal? Or even just a really dry but not too technical source. The government bought a tenth of a company with left over CHIPS act money? But also Taiwan is in it too for some reason. I don't understand what they are even doing.

Can the government buy a tenth of my cousin's sticker etsy shop for national security? I'm confused.

in reply to myrmepropagandist

Presumably Taiwan is in on this because that's where all the chips are actually made and Intel was at least ten years away from being able to build anything here that could sufficiently reach that scale. (But at this rate I'm wondering if they can even do that if they don't fix their business issues and maybe give up this whole unified design to go with the more effective chiplet design.)

I'm a bit surprised anyone in this administration can remember Taiwan isn't China.

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@myrmepropagandist
There was an NPR program that fit this description and that was The Motley Fool.
I'm gonna go see if I can hunt that up online.
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Yes, they have their own website but they look like they sure grew up huge since their founding in 1993, providing paid-for advice programs and such.
fool.com/
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there’s Marketplace, which does some of that but is more newsy. Or maybe Planet Money?
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@Laukidh @myrmepropagandist
Ya, both of those are NPR-affiliated. Actually was listening to Marketplace on the way home from the store tonight.
in reply to myrmepropagandist

I oppose the deal, but this point of view is smart and interesting:

stratechery.com/2025/u-s-intel…

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HIGHLY recommend Matt Levine’s Money Stuff newsletter. He’s super smart, very funny, and doesn’t lose sight of the big picture that the financial system is supposed to make life better for people.
in reply to myrmepropagandist

This doesn't answer directly so apologies. I'm finishing reading Chip Wars by Chris Miller. Chips are made primarily in Taiwan & considered a national security interest as most military components contain chips, and the US doesn't have reliable manufacturing. There is a history in the feds getting financially involved in these industries. How the feds currently prove an industry is in the interest of national security is ┐('~`;)┌ ?
Etsy stores should be safe for now.
in reply to myrmepropagandist

Seconding Marketplace marketplace.org/

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in reply to myrmepropagandist

It was obvious very early (1970s) that there would only be a single chip manufacturer standing. (Everybody talks about Moore's Law, but the cost to create the fab doubles, too, not just the chip performance.)

Intel figured they were the Lord's anointed and made repeated strategic errors: x86/Itanium (could be three), ignoring power efficiency, not making phone chips for Apple, relying on monopoly power/Wintel leverage for market share, and missing graphics processing.

in reply to Graydon

This has a bunch of consequences; the major one (anything not a phone is a niche device) is that Apple put billions upon billions into full vertical integration which funded TSMC for the half what wasn't "not in our strategic interests to deal with those monopolists at Intel" (any value of strategic you want, there); the result is that the one global chip foundry when the music stops for Moore's Law is NOT Intel.

(It is that hard to do; the entire global economy can afford _one_.)

in reply to Graydon

Taiwan (where TSMC's core bits are located) is in the path of a Chinese invasion. Having material control of the one global chip foundry is either a crushing PRC economic advantage or a global economic disaster (nobody has current/modern/cutting edge processor chips, for anything); for the US to get out of this position involves making Intel much more capable from a supply chain inside the US. (This isn't possible, the US economy is too small, but the empire can't admit that.)
in reply to Graydon

So, anyway; China has internal chip-making initiatives, the US public stake in Intel is part of the US internal chip-making initiative, the actual economic capability to do it is mostly Europe and Taiwan (and the rest of insular and peninsular Asia) being held up by the entire global economy, and it's painfully obvious (since about 1990) that chips are up there with oil as a necessary input to an effective military.

Note that tariffs tend to break the necessary global integration.

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@graydon

OK why are some liberals being weird and calling it "communism" I thought the CHIPS act was... fine. Like I wish it said something about mandated unions or something, but for what it's about it's fine. Isn't this trying to do the same thing in a kind of clumsy way?

in reply to myrmepropagandist

A lot of people who will say they are liberals are actually mammonites and have market idolatry axioms. Anything even resembling direct public production is a heresy and can't be tolerated. (Which is bad for everything, but never mind that now.)

And yes, it is; the CHIPS Act was a bunch of policy wonks trying to maintain the imperial status quo in a least-aggravating way. This is a combination of incompetence, panic, and different panic recognising the same problem.

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@graydon

it's consistent if you believe in the falsehood that social democrats are communists, and then consider any kind of social democratic "nationalising" to be "communist".

in reply to myrmepropagandist

In my mind the talking point of "investing" needs to be countered, because Trump is doing this to skim his cut and get control, not to make Intel stronger. So I like to ask why this is different from "seizing the means of production" such as leftist governments do. It's branding language. But this can also be construed as fascism in the sense that government and business are merging (à la 1930s Italy).
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It's generally dangerous from a policy perspective to have government for-profit investments, because typically the government takes more downside & less upside than the average investor would. Consider for example the government bail-outs of the big banks in the late 2000s.

It's not that government/industry partnerships are guaranteed to line pockets of the wealthy,it's just that corruption usually takes it that way.

& one rarely knows if you did right until a decade later…🤷…my 2¢

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Yes, the government can do that, and it's not necessarily a bad idea. For example, in Trump's first term, there was a proposal to buy Gilead Sciences, give away their outrageously expensive Hepatitis C treatment, then sell off the rest of the company. As a generic drug, the savings to Medicare alone would have made it a good deal for the government.
npr.org/transcripts/520430944
in reply to myrmepropagandist

This is a perfect example of why I love it here. Great question, then, drumroll, really great helpful on target answers. Yessiree, the people, not AI slop.
in reply to myrmepropagandist

If you don't already subscribe to Matt Levine's Money Stuff newsletter, I highly recommend. Very smart, sane person covering finance. He has the background to get technical and understand things, and the writing skills to explain them well. Plus he sees how ridiculous many of the aspects of our financial system are, and so has an honest and amusing writing style. I don't always read his newsletter, but I never regret it when I do.

I imagine he will write something on it.

in reply to myrmepropagandist

Most of the world's really high-end chips are manufactured (not designed) by TSMC in Taiwan ...using machines from ASML in the Netherlands.
in reply to myrmepropagandist

I do have a source of financial news like what you're looking for: the Money Stuff newsletter by Matt Levine.

He is good at explaining things and also has a sense of humor, or at least an appreciation for the absurd, which is critical in his line of work.

mattlevine.co/work

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in reply to myrmepropagandist

can't speak to the financial news but "eminent domain" is a sufficiently loosely described power of the federal government, which is presumably how they forced Intel to sell.
in reply to myrmepropagandist

You might appreciate this. I listened to it this morning....

youtu.be/cqGPJz8O5TM?si=Cuj5VG…

in reply to myrmepropagandist

I’m enjoying Paul Krugman’s Substack, but he writes about what he wants when he wants and isn’t trying to be the source of all info. Good explainers of things like how we perpetuate wealth inequality, though.

Also enjoying The Economist, which is only right-wing if you consider its free market stance right wing (& in my opinion it’s not). They benefit from not being US-based IMHO, too.

As for the US taking a permanent stake in key companies, seems Putinesque to me.

in reply to myrmepropagandist

Keep an eye out for useful biz writing/reporting from NPR — esp. some Marketplace features. Minnesota Public Radio economics contributor Chris Farrell is good (but not regularly featured):
mprnews.org/people/chris-farre…

marketplace.org/

Andrew Ross Sorkin is featured in a lot of places (I read him, but you can also watch or listen):
andrewrosssorkin.com/

Also the Economist.

"Right wing" is in the eye of the beholder, as long as you avoid Fox or worse!

Paywalls everywhere...

in reply to myrmepropagandist

Try the GroundNews app. It’s a news aggregator that generally gives you a range of sources, left, center and right about each targeted subject. In aggregates from a huge number of sites, left, middle, right. I constantly find sources I never knew existed Even though some of them are blatantly biased. Among other things, it shows whether left or right news organizations are not paying correct attention to a story. it’s pretty cool!
in reply to myrmepropagandist

I think these are excellent basic questions that any financial reporter should be asking. And they aren’t. Instead we get a blithe normalization of extraordinary executive actions that are probably illegal and certainly aberrant.
in reply to myrmepropagandist

standard bailout of a company in trouble, a company that is strategically important, but described in Trumps usual whacko nonsensical terms.

Regurgitated from opinion I heard on the FT economics podcast (I think).

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i have learned so much from marketplace.org
in reply to myrmepropagandist

Haha if Etsy shops were considered national security, a lot of sticker sellers would be very rich by now 😅 While the government might not invest, there are smart ways to scale and boost visibility. I help Etsy sellers do exactly that—turning creative shops into consistent sales engines
in reply to myrmepropagandist

I definitely think Marketplace is worth following. I'd add Planet Money and Freakenomics to similar types of shows. However Lever News covered the topic today and I highly recommend it over those. I'd add American Prospect and Organized Money as places to keep an eye on for financial news. levernews.com/comrade-trump-se…